Atomic Aquatics to Launch a new product (Regulator) on June 3rd....

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Genuinely curious how that logic tracks

Tom,

The problem is, you are asking for logic. That broken glass doesn't hold water.

 

[BoltSnap]

Atomic can take an old Scubapro design, make some improvements on it, and make it in Taiwan and all of a sudden it's worth over $2k?

How do you know that it is "some improvements"? Do you know the actual design of this TFX second stage and how different it is from the D400? Do you know how long they had to work on these "some improvements" and the effort and expense it took them to get there??

How do you know it was made in Taiwan?

Heck, you should do the presentation ahead of Atomic's presentation and we call it a day.

 

[Bigbella]

I doubt very much that they will make the second stage any differently including using different material.

Aside from its superficially unusual shape in the press releases, I wasn't aware that the second was made of any exotic materials; and the Poseidon Jetstream had already possessed that coaxial orientation for the last forty-five years -- but it is awfully nice of them to throw in what appears to be the Ti swivel hose . . .

 

[BoltSnap]

I wasn't aware that the second was made of any exotic materials

The metal part isn't brass AFAIK.

 

[Nemrod]

alright, so let me get this straight.

Deep6 can't take a design that Scubapro originally made with the 156, Apeks derived theirs from with some improvements, and then Deep6 did the same from Apeks and make it in a factory in Taiwan and that is a cheap abomination, but Atomic can take an old Scubapro design, make some improvements on it, and make it in Taiwan and all of a sudden it's worth over $2k?

Genuinely curious how that logic tracks. I'm not saying this isn't going to be an incredible regulator, I'm just curious how this one is OK to make an iterative design improvement off of another companies product and produce it in Taiwan but another isn't.

Tom, quit being logical. You are ruining the party. Party pooper

Scubapro innovates and everyone else copies, lol.

I am sorry, I cannot help it, I am a trouble maker. And Tom, it is titanium .

I am going to fly the flag :

 

[Bigbella]

Tom, quit being logical. You are ruining the party.

Scubapro innovates and everyone else copies, lol.

I am sorry, I cannot help it, I am a trouble maker. And Tom, it is titanium .

I am going to fly the flag:

No -- you cannot fly the flag in that orientation.

Scubapro is plainly under attack!

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

The excitement that some people have talkimg about scuba gear is similar at times to that of teenage boys about to lose their virginity.

 

[Robert H. Diver]

Well, the number of pre-orders is amazing across the world. It is a "flagship" model and not for everyone. The number of people pre-ordering it is very large considering the price. It is probably very premature to comment without seeing the performance data and actually diving the regulator. What I know from presentations and information and all of the technical details of the design and performance I have personally seen and read, it is in a different category from the rest. I can't wait to have my hands on one and diving it. If I can't afford to buy a whole set, I hope that they offer just the second stage à la carte to make the acquisition a little easier.


P.S. You may think that they are stupid but they are the ones who designed it, manufactured it, selling it and making loads of money doing that but you aren't and have nothing to do with it.

Don’t really care about the so called unprecedented performance…are the pre orders from individuals or shops? It’s a ridiculous price point for a reg set. Could I afford one? Yea sure..but why TF would I want it? It better breath for me at that price point.

 

[Bigbella]

Don’t really care about the so called unprecedented performance…are the pre orders from individuals or shops? It’s a ridiculous price point for a reg set. Could I afford one? Yea sure..but why TF would I want it? It better breath for me at that price point.

Dollars to doughnuts, we'll soon see these Fabergé regs on eBay within weeks, and closer to 3K, for the exclusivity -- and the fact that Atomic seems to have already sold out.

Here I am in the corner, skip-breathing on my (to paraphrase Malcolm McDowell), "pitiful, portable picnic player" Poseidon . . .

 

[buddhasummer]

The excitement that some people have talkimg about scuba gear is similar at times to that of teenage boys about to lose their virginity.

I think that's a bit harsh.

For me it's about connection and a genuine interest in all things scuba.

Will I be paying $2000 plus on regulator? Most likely not, that's not my playing field. I can buy a whole heap of G250s for that. Am I interested in this "new" regs design? Absolutely. YMMV.

I'm into headphones too and they along with regs have way surpassed stupid prices. I'd not drop $6000 on a pair but I'm still interested in them.

I most certainly would not buy anything just for w.nk value.