Can we go to Coz yet?

[ggunn]

I sincerely hope that the opening up of Cozumel works out well, not only for the sake of the people who live there but for mine as well; I'd like to get there before too many more months have passed. As measured by the number of reported cases (and I have to think that the real number of people who are infected is significantly higher), going out and doing "normal" things here in Austin now that things are beginning to open up is more hazardous than it has ever been.

 

[nwflyboy]

thx for that. very interesting...i would also suggest that wearing your mask through there makes zero sense. the mask should not go through the sprayer and you should hold your breath. otherwise, you might wanna throw that mask away and put on another. unless of course you are ok with breathing in all the mystery chemical residue left on the mask all day.

Agree that one should dispose of their mask immediately upon exiting that thing (and put on a fresh one that hasn't gone through the spray tunnel!).

Two questions: How long do you need to spend inside that thing, and how long can the average person hold their breath?

I remember back when on international flights prior to landing the FA would walk down the isle with 2 cans of insecticide spraying fun blast.

It's still done (or at least it was last year, the last time I flew into Mexico from the USA). I always try to bury my head in my jacket or other cloth, take a deep breath as I see them coming, hold my breath as long as I can, and breathe through a cloth for a while. I find the experience...fairly disturbing.

 

[nwflyboy]

I sincerely hope that the opening up of Cozumel works out well, not only for the sake of the people who live there but for mine as well; I'd like to get there before too many more months have passed. As measured by the number of reported cases (and I have to think that the real number of people who are infected is significantly higher), going out and doing "normal" things here in Austin now that things are beginning to open up is more hazardous than it has ever been.

Lots of that all over the world. Looking at the virus spread in the USA, there appears to be a strong correlation between states that pushed hard to "open up" quickly and places with sharp spikes in virus spread and hospitalizations. It's still a little early to draw firm conclusions, but it appears we are now seeing the leading edge of virus spikes caused by relaxation (no mask wearing, lacking of social distancing, gatherings) over the Memorial Day weekend. We should have better data in about a week or so. If the sharp uptick in numbers continue, we are in for a very, very difficult summer ahead.

Everyone is tired of the pandemic, and having to be inconvenienced by measures to limit its spread. From where I live, it looks to me that many people have just decided they've tired of the inconveniences, they're given up, and have decided to move on - as if the virus was not still circulating...fewer people wearing masks, less distancing, more congregating. It's human nature but it's also dangerous and irresponsible IMHO. The virus is still around.

I worry that people will just give up, pretend the virus has been beaten, and we will get a big spike that requires a complete shutdown and shelter-in-place again. Nobody wants that.

 

[ggunn]

Lots of that all over the world. Looking at the virus spread in the USA, there appears to be a strong correlation between states that pushed hard to "open up" quickly and places with sharp spikes in virus spread and hospitalizations. It's still a little early to draw firm conclusions, but it appears we are now seeing the leading edge of virus spikes caused by relaxation (no mask wearing, lacking of social distancing, gatherings) over the Memorial Day weekend. We should have better data in about a week or so. If the sharp uptick in numbers continue, we are in for a very, very difficult summer ahead.

Everyone is tired of the pandemic, and having to be inconvenienced by measures to limit its spread. From where I live, it looks to me that many people have just decided they've tired of the inconveniences, they're given up, and have decided to move on - as if the virus was not still circulating...fewer people wearing masks, less distancing, more congregating. It's human nature but it's also dangerous and irresponsible IMHO. The virus is still around.

I worry that people will just give up, pretend the virus has been beaten, and we will get a big spike that requires a complete shutdown and shelter-in-place again. Nobody wants that.

Agreed on all points. I "liked" your post, though "like" is the wrong word for it.

 

[BRT]

Lots of that all over the world. Looking at the virus spread in the USA, there appears to be a strong correlation between states that pushed hard to "open up" quickly and places with sharp spikes in virus spread and hospitalizations. It's still a little early to draw firm conclusions, but it appears we are now seeing the leading edge of virus spikes caused by relaxation (no mask wearing, lacking of social distancing, gatherings) over the Memorial Day weekend. We should have better data in about a week or so. If the sharp uptick in numbers continue, we are in for a very, very difficult summer ahead.

Everyone is tired of the pandemic, and having to be inconvenienced by measures to limit its spread. From where I live, it looks to me that many people have just decided they've tired of the inconveniences, they're given up, and have decided to move on - as if the virus was not still circulating...fewer people wearing masks, less distancing, more congregating. It's human nature but it's also dangerous and irresponsible IMHO. The virus is still around.

I worry that people will just give up, pretend the virus has been beaten, and we will get a big spike that requires a complete shutdown and shelter-in-place again. Nobody wants that.

I don't think there is any question that cases will go up when we start to live our lives again.

 

[ggunn]

I don't think there is any question that cases will go up when we start to live our lives again.

Yes, and some of those lives will be over.

 

[BRT]

Yes, and some of those lives will be over.

Very true. Some lives are over every year. Some lives will never get out of the social distancing/lockdowns. I believe that in Mexico and here I'm seeing that people are just sick of the whole thing and don't care so much anymore.

 

[Snoweman]

Very true. Some lives are over every year. Some lives will never get out of the social distancing/lockdowns. I believe that in Mexico and here I'm seeing that people are just sick of the whole thing and don't care so much anymore.

I get it, but it's also a suicidal tendency.

 

[Pillpusher]

I'm thinking that the main threat to the island will be when the cruise ships come back. For the life of me, I just can't comprehend why anyone would get on one of those this year. But, cruisers gonna cruise, come hell or high water, I suppose. Because of this, I decided to move my trip up to 6/27. Get in there before any cruise ships do, and enjoy the island without all the crowds.

 

[nwflyboy]

I get it, but it's also a suicidal tendency.

Unfortunately, not just suicidal, but homicidal too. Like it or not, we are all in this together. Lots of us can be completely responsible, stay isolated, follow all the guidelines stringently. But if a handful of yahoos decide they're tired of all the inconveniences or they just don't like wearing a mask (or they don't believe in things they can't see), they not only risk themselves, they can spread it and kill lots of others, including you, me, and a large swath of the population (on Cozumel or at home).

Given human nature, I am not encouraged by the current trends. I want the businesses on Cozumel to thrive, just like I want the local businesses where I live to come back. But good public health is a prerequisite to a good economy.

I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for the best for Cozumel, but I'm not traveling for a good while. I'll be watching how things go and how people behave. It's all speculation right now anyway, until we get good data for a while under the current experiments. That said, based on the behaviors I see around me, I'm expecting things to have to get worse before they get better. Hope I'm wrong about that.