Aluminum 80s versus larger steel tanks

[cvchief]

Gaffer ( Air Hogitus Maximus)

You know I had my Hoover nature fixed by diving off a dive your tank boat. That public shaming of sitting with the newbies and once every 3 years cruise ship divers waiting for the 'real' divers to finish was enough for me.

 

[Sue Sue]

101 posts... Overall, when it comes down to the bottom line, the most important thing is not the tank size, be it Aluminum or steel. It is not how much air is used or how much bottom time other divers have. The most important thing is that we use whatever tool we feel is the best to allow us to have the best dive experience we can.

And Skittl, I did not mean to imply that your dive times were not good. On the contrary, your dive reports and reviews of your dive experiences are truly impressive . Since arriving here on Scubaboard your interest and ability to master diving skills is awesome !

 

[Dave Dillehay]

Well, since we got into measuring how long we are, its my turn to brag. My best as a dive guide, with paying customers was at Paso De Cedral max depth 60 feet and continued on to San Francisco. 2 hours and 2 minutes…but I was the one to run out of air, shame on me. That was the record for a while at Aldora but Memo came up at 2 hours 31 minutes—but like many examples given here, neither are the norm for any one. JUST BRAGGING


Dave Dillehay
Aldora Divers

 

[chillyinCanada]

On Al80s Dave?

 

[Mike]

Ah, the Nixon "great silent majority" argument! Always a classic.

You seem rattled. You basically called everyone rubes for diving 80s and then are shocked people pushed back.

Oh please. There is yet to be any subject on scubaboard that is going to rattle me. This is the internet my friend, let's not take it so seroiusly. Mm-kay?

And come on now, nobody called anybody rubes for diving 80s. I would be calling myself a rube if that is what I said, because unlike yourself I actually dive outside Cozumel and outside Cozumel the aluminum 80 is even more dominant and I dive them all the time.

I did call BS and rubes on anybody trying to say less air is better than more air when it comes to diving, this is the stupidity of this entire thread and typical of this forum where people argue themselves into corners or absurdity after a thread gets 3 pages long.

I've said it 3 times in this thread I don't give a crap what anybody dives with. I just want to watch more postings from people with their bottom times to prove that they personally dive longer than 60 minutes all the time in Cozumel on Al 80s in a futile effort to dispute and prove that their exceptional times disprove the averages of all the cruise ship divers and timed diving/schedule diving operators in Cozumel who absolutely never dive over an hour on their dives. People definitely live in their own narcissistic worlds when they believe their log books somehow can prove that everyone is duplicating their profile.

Just to sum up the issues so everybody can follow along the disputes are

1) more air is not a good thing in scuba
2) everyone and every dive operation in Cozumel dives for a minimum of 60 minutes on every dive and many, many, many are routinely diving 90 minutes on al 80s.

Notice chief - nowhere is there an issue or dispute about anybody being a rube because they don't dive steel, that might be your own personal insecurity you revealed, I don't really know.

 

[cvchief]

It is not how much air is used or how much bottom time other divers have. The most important thing is that we use whatever tool we feel is the best to allow us to have the best dive experience we can.

I get so confused on this thread. So YOU are saying it isn't the size of the tank but the motion of the ocean?

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There is yet to be any subject on scubaboard that is going to rattle me.

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Rattled?


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You just said rattled twice. And then ranted. I think you might be rattled.....

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Would you like more horse power or less horse power? I'll take more horse power.

Would you like a raise so you make more money or just wait till next year? I'll take the raise.

Hot girl or ugly girl?

Hamburger or double cheese burger?

Poor husband or rich husband?

One beer or two beers?

Regular size or super size?

Smaller tank or bigger tank?


I sense a pattern.

Scubaboard is a weird place, if a thread goes on long enough it turns back upon itself and eats itself, turns into a black hole where all logic and reason disappear, the sky is no longer blue, water is no longer wet, and small tanks are preferred to larger ones.

The only thing that really puzzles me is why only 3 dive operators have gone to larger tanks? Seems like a total no-brainer to me, when you look around and see one of the most successful operators offers large tanks why that wouldn't be on your radar? I'm goofy like that, I see success and I want to take the easy road and just copy it instead of fighting it or be mad at it.

Well, first off who doesn't like them?

Here is a $10 bill or a $100 bill, which one do you want? Here is a small margarita, or here is a large one, which one do you want? Here is less air on your dive or more air on your dive which one do you want? I mean we have to go through this all again?

I mean, I ask you theoretically, if in Cozumel you could wave a big magic wand and suddenly every single dive operation had steel high pressure tanks and Al 80s in their inventory and every diver now was given the option of do you want an Al 80 or at no additional cost a steel tank with 50% more air, do you really think the majority of divers would stick with Al 80s? If not, why?

And that sounds alot like you calling 80 divers rubes? Maybe you were just calling them dumb? Misguided? I dunno, but you sure were calling them something.....

 

[Skittl1321]

and timed diving/schedule diving operators in Cozumel who absolutely never dive over an hour on their dives

What does this have to do with amount of air? They could be diving with 3,000 cubic feet of air, and if the dive op says 45 minutes, the dive will be 45 minutes.

 

[Mike]

Yes, skittly, now you're getting it. Keep going, you're almost there.

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Chief

Why are you yelling, why so angry?

 

[Ron Lee]

What does this have to do with amount of air? They could be diving with 3,000 cubic feet of air, and if the dive op says 45 minutes, the dive will be 45 minutes.

Reportedly that does happen.

 

[cvchief]

Yes, skittly, now you're getting it. Keep going, you're almost there.

So.... you are using time limited dives to prove most people don't get anywhere near 60 minutes on an 80, yet the dive is limited by the clock and not the tank? Wow. You should run for congress. So if I like my tank, I can keep my tank?

Chief

Why are you yelling, why so angry?

No all caps in my posts. Or rattled rants.