Another CZM diving death Nov 21.

[Jax]

Y'know, I'm no expert, but everything I read about experienced divers dying leaves nothing that a buddy could have done.

[speculation]
Suzanne was not OOG, according to one report. That leaves a medical problem. The likely ones to kill you are a cardiac arrest, a stroke, an AGE (slim chance) and Immersion Pulmonary Edema. Even with a buddy, chances are she would not have made it.

She was an experienced diver. She dived doing something she loved. May we all be so fortunate.

[/speculation]

 

[Shut up & dive]

Shut up and dive, how often have you dove in Cozumel? Having dove in a few differents places, I have found in general the protocol to be quite sufficient in Cozumel, and actually better than a couple operators I dove with in Hawaii.. Just wondering how many different dive ops you have spent time with underwater in Coz?

Done hundreds of dives in CZM and hundreds more around the world. Been w/ 5 dive ops in CZM. "Protocol" is contingent upon the op and if there are regulars on the boat. If there are 8 people on a boat and 2 are new, the DM may have a tendency to be lax on the run down and that is a recipe for disaster.

 

[ggunn]

Y'know, I'm no expert, but everything I read about experienced divers dying leaves nothing that a buddy could have done.

[speculation]
Suzanne was not OOG, according to one report. That leaves a medical problem. The likely ones to kill you are a cardiac arrest, a stroke, an AGE (slim chance) and Immersion Pulmonary Edema. Even with a buddy, chances are she would not have made it.

She was an experienced diver. She dived doing something she loved. May we all be so fortunate.

[/speculation]

Well, there is one thing a buddy probably could have done, and that's tell the rest of us what happened.

 

[twodawghs]

Y'know, I'm no expert, but everything I read about experienced divers dying leaves nothing that a buddy could have done.

[speculation]
Suzanne was not OOG, according to one report. That leaves a medical problem. The likely ones to kill you are a cardiac arrest, a stroke, an AGE (slim chance) and Immersion Pulmonary Edema. Even with a buddy, chances are she would not have made it.

She was an experienced diver. She dived doing something she loved. May we all be so fortunate.

[/speculation]

Jax - just a point of reference - Suzanne did not have a medical problem. The autopsy showed no cardiac event, stroke, or any type of brain Aneurysm. She also had plenty of air. Unfortunately, we will probably never know exactly what happened.

 

[Blue Sparkle]

The autopsy showed no cardiac event, stroke, or any type of brain Aneurysm. She also had plenty of air. Unfortunately, we will probably never know exactly what happened.

Twodawghs,

Thank you so much for posting this factual follow-up. True, it still leaves what happened a mystery (for which I'm really sorry on your behalf), but we so rarely get factual updates at a later date like this. The fact that you took the time and effort to come back and update the thread is much appreciated.

(I originally "liked" your post, but somehow a "thumbs up" just didn't look right, so I'm replying instead.)

Blue Sparkle

 

[Ron Lee]

Jax - just a point of reference - Suzanne did not have a medical problem. The autopsy showed no cardiac event, stroke, or any type of brain Aneurysm. She also had plenty of air. Unfortunately, we will probably never know exactly what happened.

This makes the situation even more puzzling. One point of uncertainty remains unresolved. Was her husband a diver and was he on this dive?

 

[Blue Sparkle]

One point of uncertainty remains unresolved. Was her husband a diver and was he on this dive?

This was posted earlier in the thread, although of course I don't know for sure if it was accurate (not specifically doubting - I just don't know):

I'm currently on Cozumel and diving with the op that this accident occurred, but was not present (I was on a different boat). I promised to not add to the speculation, but I do feel obligated to correct any inaccuracies.

1) She was traveling with her husband, but he is not a diver and was not her buddy. I don't know if she had a buddy.

[then there were more points...]

 

[WSOPFAN]

Jax - just a point of reference - Suzanne did not have a medical problem. The autopsy showed no cardiac event, stroke, or any type of brain Aneurysm. She also had plenty of air. Unfortunately, we will probably never know exactly what happened.

Was the autopsy done in Mexico the U.S. or both? Do you know if there were tests done for CO poisoning? Did the autopsy show lethally elevated levels of Carboxyhemoglobin and if so what test was done to determine that? If that along with the other things you mentioned are all ruled out then I would agree, you may never know the cause.

 

[Ron Lee]

This was posted earlier in the thread, although of course I don't know for sure if it was accurate (not specifically doubting - I just don't know):

I would like to hear if the husband was a diver and on that dive from the poster who is supposedly the husbands daughter.

 

[ggunn]

<speculation alert>

This happened to me: I got separated from my group on a dive in a ripping current. It was my own stupid fault, and the how and why is a long and irrelevant story, but I was totally alone at 80' and completely out of sight of any other divers. In an effort to rejoin the group, I kicked against the current. And kicked. And kicked. All I accomplished was to totally wear myself out and get severely hyperventilated. I could not catch my breath, and it did not seem to me that I could possibly get enough air though that little tube in my mouth. The impulse to tear the regulator from my mouth so I could breathe was nearly irresistible. It is by far the scariest moment I have ever had diving and I am lucky to have survived it. Even now, more than three years later, I feel a little short of breath just thinking about it.

It has been posted in here that the current was very strong at the wreck that day and that Suzanne alone elected not to enter the wreck. It occurred to me that she may have tried to stay on the wreck and wait for the group, gotten swept away, and gotten herself in a situation like I did trying to get back.