I just don't get it, do you?

[DevonDiver]

I don't get it either. But what can you do- you even have SB staff trolling around flaming solo divers (Check out the other thread ("RIP solo diver")). -->

You seem to misunderstand. That is not trolling or flaming.

As a solo diver, are you living under some misapprehension that the activity is without risks?

Or that those risks should not be debated, assessed and understood, by those who wish to be involved in it?

I SOLO DIVE.

In fact, I solo dive inside wrecks, doing technical penetration and deco. I've solo dived to 260'...at night. I've solo dived many hundreds of times.... so please don't patronize me, or quote me out of context because you feel persecuted... or don't want to hear the truth of the matter.

I feel very strongly about solo diving. I believe that it is a legitimate and enjoyable activity - and most often it offers certain benefits that team diving doesn't bring. That said, there are risks. There are pros and cons. There is a need for superior training and experience. There is a need for having the right mindset. There are equipment considerations.

Solo diving is fine... but risks exist and have to be mitigated. I am opposed to divers who conduct the activity and either don't understand the risks, or bother to mitigate them.

The solo diver forum is a flame-free zone. But it isn't a reality-free zone.

Mentioning a 'negative' issue might be traumatic experience for the more deluded participants in this forum... but that's life. Open your eyes.

Solo divers shouldn't be living in a cosy little bubble of invulnerability.

 

[Akimbo]

Mind in I have that quote in my signature?...

Quoting a friend, “Never put anything in writing on the Internet that you wouldn’t want to see on the front page of the New York Times tomorrow.” Feel free.

 

[ScubaSteve]

I don't get it either. But what can you do- you even have SB staff trolling around flaming solo divers (Check out the other thread ("RIP solo diver")). -->

I would hardly call that flaming or anything even remotely close to it. Trolling is also not what he was doing. A Troll is the thread that I believe caused the OP to start this thread. Devon was not trolling anything.

Edit - it seems Devon has already commented so my post is redundant. So, I'll add something else....

Periodically trolls feel the need to stir things up and it may be in Solo diving, DIR or many other areas. Solo divers are not unique in that way .

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I realy don't understand why non solo divers come to this forum (solo divers is a non flame site) and have nothing to add in the forum that has anything to do with solo diving other then, how we are going to die under the brimey waves...........I know that if a solo diver where to start posting on same of the other forums there would be a sh!t storm like no body has ever seen before.

... for the same reason why so many non DIR folks (including many solo divers) just HAVE to go to the DIR forum to talk about why DIR doesn't work for them ...

... welcome to the internet ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[jester1226]

You seem to misunderstand. That is not trolling or flaming.

As a solo diver, are you living under some misapprehension that the activity is without risks?

Or that those risks should not be debated, assessed and understood, by those who wish to be involved in it?
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Call it what you want! Are you saying you came here to overstate the obvious? We understand the inherent risks and accept them. Personally after some of the divebuddies I have been stuck with on charters I am much safer solo!

 

[Ste Wart]

... for the same reason why so many non DIR folks (including many solo divers) just HAVE to go to the DIR forum to talk about why DIR doesn't work for them ...

... welcome to the internet ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Unless you get banned from the D*R forum that is

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Call it what you want! Are you saying you came here to overstate the obvious? We understand the inherent risks and accept them. Personally after some of the divebuddies I have been stuck with on charters I am much safer solo!

Many people who come to this forum do not understand the inherent risks ... they come here looking for information. Why shouldn't those risks be discussed? If you understand and accept them, then why should it be a problem that someone else brings them up?

I enjoy solo diving ... did a nice 63-minute solo dive yesterday, in fact ... in fairly challenging conditions. But I see no issue at all discussing the risks of solo diving in this forum or anywhere else. I'd way rather see people decide to get into it when that information available than to pretend that everybody "understands" ... in fact, I think most divers (solo or otherwise) have a tendency to believe themselves to be more skilled than they truly are. Sometimes bringing those topics up will cause someone to reconsider an assumption they'd made, or think about something they hadn't previously thought about.

I see no downside to that aspect of the conversation ... if it doesn't float your boat, tap your keyboard and move on to the next reply or a different thread ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[redacted]

You seem to misunderstand. That is not trolling or flaming.

As a solo diver, are you living under some misapprehension that the activity is without risks?

Or that those risks should not be debated, assessed and understood, by those who wish to be involved in it?

I SOLO DIVE.

In fact, I solo dive inside wrecks, doing technical penetration and deco. I've solo dived to 260'...at night. I've solo dived many hundreds of times.... so please don't patronize me, or quote me out of context because you feel persecuted... or don't want to hear the truth of the matter.

I feel very strongly about solo diving. I believe that it is a legitimate and enjoyable activity - and most often it offers certain benefits that team diving doesn't bring. That said, there are risks. There are pros and cons. There is a need for superior training and experience. There is a need for having the right mindset. There are equipment considerations.

Solo diving is fine... but risks exist and have to be mitigated. I am opposed to divers who conduct the activity and either don't understand the risks, or bother to mitigate them.

The solo diver forum is a flame-free zone. But it isn't a reality-free zone.

Mentioning a 'negative' issue might be traumatic experience for the more deluded participants in this forum... but that's life. Open your eyes.

Solo divers shouldn't be living in a cosy little bubble of invulnerability.

The problem is you seem to be pushing this idea only in relation to solo diving when it really applies to all types of scuba diving. I have yet to see anything that makes me believe solo diving is inherently more risky than buddy diving overall. Certain aspects clearly have different risk factors and many of them have means to mitigate those risks. Other have reduced risks like being drawn into an incident by the actions of some buddy.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Unless you get banned from the D*R forum that is

I've yet to see anyone get banned from that forum who didn't truly deserve it ... and I think we all know where you stand on DIR at this point, so I see no reason why you should ever want to go there anyway ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Ste Wart]

I've yet to see anyone get banned from that forum who didn't truly deserve it ... and I think we all know where you stand on DIR at this point, so I see no reason why you should ever want to go there anyway ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Seeing as I've never stated my view on D*R I find it amazing that you know my standpoint.