PADI getting sued over Insurance Program

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well seems the plot thickens, however the headline is misleading it should be "Temporarily Revokes"

PADI Revokes Teaching Status of Store Owner In Insurance Suit

Divenewswire

As a former journalism instructor, I assure you there is a lot more wrong with this story than the headline. In fact, the article as a whole is very troubling from a journalistic point of view, and I think it reflects very poorly on Divenewswire.

The article is a press release from the attorney in this case, unedited. It is presenting one side of a controversial story at its persuasive best. It is disguised as a news story, but its intent is similar to a closing argument to a jury.

I really don't know what actually happened in this case, but I would caution readers from taking this information as if it came from a legitimate news source.
 
boulderjohn:
As a former journalism instructor, I assure you there is a lot more wrong with this story than the headline. In fact, the article as a whole is very troubling from a journalistic point of view, and I think it reflects very poorly on Divenewswire.

My understanding is all Divenewswire does is distribute press releases. I wasn't under the impression they write news stories. If their purpose is to distribute press releases, why would distributing a press release reflect poorly on them?
 
I know little or nothing about Divenewswire, but they appear to be, more or less, an outlet for industry press releases.

It was clear to me that what I was reading were unedited press releases from PADI and from Lesser & Associates.
 
It was clear to me that what I was reading were unedited press releases from PADI and from Lesser & Associates.

As long as everyone understands that...
 
As a former journalism instructor, I assure you there is a lot more wrong with this story than the headline. In fact, the article as a whole is very troubling from a journalistic point of view, and I think it reflects very poorly on Divenewswire.

The article is a press release from the attorney in this case, unedited. It is presenting one side of a controversial story at its persuasive best. It is disguised as a news story, but its intent is similar to a closing argument to a jury.

I really don't know what actually happened in this case, but I would caution readers from taking this information as if it came from a legitimate news source.

I agree. I posted the link with a :shakehead:.
1. :shakehead: for whatever actually happened...whether it was an error or not:confused:?
2. :shakehead::shakehead: at the public one-sided venting.

Sadly we've become a society where public bashing (many times even before all the facts are in) is all too common place. Just look at any of the recent political campaigns. Scubaboard seems to be a common outlet for airing dirty laundry or the dissecting of such behavior.
 
There are a few things that I feel need to be said:

First of all, to Pete: Speaking for myself, I don't wish PADI ill, I wish PADI better. PADI has, in my view, been a primary leader in what I see as the failure of new diver education to live up to its potential. I feel that PADI has been the leader in focusing on the "needs" of once a year dive resort goers at the expense of the provision of adequate training for local divers. I strongly object to the way in which PADI has used two approaches to do this, the first being the pretense that they are training "DIVERS" with all that that word carries subliminally whilst contradicting that in the fine print with caveats concerning only diving in conditions similar to those trained in, the second being the disingenuous application of various accepted terms of art, such as "Advanced" or "Master Diver" that were created by other agencies to describe specific levels of diver training to PADI training programs that were equivalent to (or less than) levels of diver training that were lower on the ladder. I wish that PADI had not done either of these things. But that does not mean that I wish PADI ill (beyond the natural reaction that most anyone has to seeing someone lose what one perceives to be their ill gotten gains.) I would far prefer PADI to move back toward what it once once, a quality organization based on quality programs ... the industry would be much better off if that were to happen.

Second, to Walter: I am, despite the opinions expressed above, party to the "back room dealings." I would like to assure you that there is nothing that has gone on that I would describe as censorship of ideas, there has been censorship of inappropriate expression of some ideas, but only after rather lengthy discussion and debate. In every instance, every effort is made to bend over backwards to avoid the stifeling of ideas. When one of the staff expresses concern that an inappropriate limiting of free expression is being considered, even when that is a minority view or one, the discussion continues to consensus. For what it is worth, Pete developed this system and continues to be one of its staunchest supporters, even when he disagrees, and the ideas are protected by the rather wide range of views held by the staff members.
 
My understanding is all Divenewswire does is distribute press releases. I wasn't under the impression they write news stories. If their purpose is to distribute press releases, why would distributing a press release reflect poorly on them?

Editorial selection. I can't believe they print all press releases--they must have some sort of a filtering system. If not, I think I will start sending out some self serving press releases so that they will be disseminated around the world. And this is not a normal press release--it is an inflammatory attack from one party in a lawsuit. Industry press releases touting their latest products are a different story altogether. If I had been on whatever editing board passes judgment on these things, I would have had some real concerns about printing this.

As soon as you print an inflammatory attack rather than a standard announcement, you have entered the world of real journalism, and you have to start thinking about objectivity and fair play. You have entered an ethical area that I don't think the originators of Divenewswire had in mind.

Let's look at what it said at its bare bones. A man was taken off teaching status briefly, and the agency that did this said it was a mistake. Is that normally newsworthy enough to merit even a mention under normal circumstances?

But these are not normal circumstances, and because the man in question was involved with a lawsuit, things get stepped up a little. Far enough to merit printing? I don't know.
 
Editorial selection. I can't believe they print all press releases--they must have some sort of a filtering system.
They use the Benjamin Filter System. Insert the proper number of Benjamins and they will be GLAD to print whatever drivel you might want to give them. This is completely different from ScubaBoard in that we let you print your drivel here for free. :D

(Scott is going to kill me for this)
 
First of all, those press releases cost hundreds of dollars. I'm sure Scott will make you a deal to buy 5 or more. Second of all, a man sues his training agency. His training agency removes him from teaching status with no notification to him, and no explanation. It wasn't until his certs were rejected that he found out that he wasn't in teaching status. His lawyer had to write a letter to his training agency and make inquiry as to why he was no longer in teaching status. His training agency immediately realized that they had made a mistake and restored his status.

How would you feel if you had your teaching status revoked and had to have your lawyer find out why, because your teaching agency wouldn't take your phone calls?

This trial is being played out in the court of public opinion, folks. The sides will put pressure on until one capitulates, and cash changes hands. If you think this is anything else than one party trying to make another party bend, you are sorely mistaken. One of these parties is well known for using every tool in his toolbox to make things go his way. Press releases and internet chat forums are just some of those tools.
 
I notice that there are 11 members and 9 guests viewing this thread as I type. I wonder who those guests are.
 

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