PADI tables finally going away?

[boulderjohn]

Not really, it's just the final entry in every depth column.

Which makes it about 10% of the entire set of three tables and with only a fraction of the processes.

 

[Blackwood]

Which makes it about 10% of the entire set of three tables and with only a fraction of the processes.

Me: something about planning mode on a computer,

Pete: You can even plug in different NitrOx mixes and see how they affect your dive. Try to do that with a table and no calculator handy,

leabre: Ratio Deco,

you: Ratio Deco does not use tables.

Nothing in the above requires surface interval or RNT tables.

In any case, this is pretty irrelevant.

 

[boulderjohn]

In any case, this is pretty irrelevant.

You're right. I was thinking in the larger context of the entire thread.

 

[lwatkins57]

Scuba Diving education is part of the process. Undrstanding the "Tables" is not just for knowing how long a dive may be at a certain depth. It should be a taste of physics. Understanding the fundementals behind tables and computers is a great way to increase dive knowledge and hopefully, creating interets for further dive education and certifications. Here's a "cheers" for the future Dive Master, AIs, and Instrutors, who will keep our sport going...

 

[boulderjohn]

Scuba Diving education is part of the process. Undrstanding the "Tables" is not just for knowing how long a dive may be at a certain depth. It should be a taste of physics. Understanding the fundementals behind tables and computers is a great way to increase dive knowledge and hopefully, creating interets for further dive education and certifications. Here's a "cheers" for the future Dive Master, AIs, and Instrutors, who will keep our sport going...

Perhaps you noticed in my example above that I taught all that physics before getting to tables or computers. Once I had taught the physics, did it matter what method I taught for measuring it?

 

[The Chairman]

Perhaps you noticed in my example above that I taught all that physics before getting to tables or computers. Once I had taught the physics, did it matter what method I taught for measuring it?

I sure did... that's the way I do it!

 

[matybsas]

I've never seen a diver in over 10 years of diving use a table for diving unless its their OW class and I'm coming across more and more new divers who don't know how to read their own computer or the rental computer.
I think it's time for PADI to reduce the info on tables in the OW book and take out students having to actually learn the table. Leave a page to cover the theory and basic physics so people will understand what it was used for and then cover computer usage alot more.
Divers who dive with computers has drastically increased over the past four years so why not adapt to modern times? What do you think?

Here in Argentina (and guess on most 3rd world countries) the situation is a little different.
The cheapest dive computer is almost 15 day salary (of a std salary). and that if we can get a 200 dollars DC from abroad (you can't just order it because customs with withold it, you need to bring it with you). Here (in a local dive store) the cheapest DC is almost 400 dollars, almost a std montly salary.
It's not common at all here to see people with a full equipment (it wil be almost 1/2 year salary), most has just Snorquel and mask and rent the rest, with the years (and depending on their income) they may keep getting equipment.
Other important fact is that there is no thing like Dice Computer rental here... I asked to and they laugh on my face!
I also don't know a diving school that provide dive computers for every student.
I needed to beg the instructor for him to borrow me his DC for 1 dive during my OWD course.
Also not every regulator has an depth gauge attached (or working) and there are not much normal wrist clocks that can resist a 18mts (59ft) dive. So the bast mayority of OWD dives with no timer, no depth gauge and they just can trust the instructor of what the max depth and bottom time was and use their PADI tables. (that came with the $50 OWD PADI manual)
So after my mask and snorkel my first piece of equipment was my Mares M2 for 200 bucks that i brought from the US.
My philosophy is that you make your dive secure.
So back to subject, i think dive tables are mandatory in some places. In general i think they must show you a dive table and at least quickly tell you what it is and what is is for. The courses need to assure you are aware of what you will be doing UW and finally it's up to you.
So remembre bringing your DC with you when you came to Argentina to dive with the sea lions, or the right whales

 

[sgtchunk]

Yes, tables should still be taught. Just like in the military, land navigation with a compass is still a focus, even with GPS being everywhere. GPS, like a diving computer, is an electronic device that is subject to failure and/or dead batteries.

 

[Doc]

120 days, and...

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[ScubaSteve]

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