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i've been diving with contacts for many years. a while back i got an eye infection, and couldn't even wear my contacts for a couple of weeks. during that time period i had a 3 day trip in the channel islands scheuled. i was not going to dive blind!!!! (i had checked out the H2O mask when they first came onto the market. expensive !!! ). i checked out getting a prescription mask (as i'm nearsighted, -3.0) even more expensive and would take at least 2 weeks to get. i called an instructor that i knew that dove with this mask, i drove 30 miles to his house, jumped in the pool, one look was all it took. i called H2Optics i had the mask in an matter of days. i'm so impressed with this mask i don't expect to ever use any other mask (when i'm scuba diving). the customer service was polite, and knowledgeable. i did notice a little problem with the mask sealing under nose, had to trim the moustache back a little. i can't wait to try out the new 3.5 when it becomes available. ken
 
I was researching this mask a while ago... I was on a photo assignment one day at a LDS (not the one I usually use) and they had one high up on a shelf. I was excited to see it, because I wanted to see what it was all about. When I asked the salesperson, all she could tell me was how 'ridiculous you look when you wear it' and that the tec guys at the shop 'don't like it because it's not low profile enough'... she wouldn't / couldn't answer any questions about it... couldn't even tell me which version it was. I tried it on and was happy to find that the seal appeared to fit my face. She seemed very happy to tell me that this was the last one they were ever going to carry because the owner 'received a lot of grief' over carrying it.....

I made the decision not to buy anything from the store due to the attitude.... shame, because if she had been able to answer the question I would have bought it on the spot.

I've decided to wait now for financial reasons, but I will be buying one.
 
Speaking of volume. What is the volume of the mask and how does your neck feel after a couple of hours in the water?
 
My standard low volume mask (Snorkel Bobs variety) will hold 2/3 cup of water before overflowing.

My Hydrooptix S1 (Original, smaller skirt) holds 1 & 2/3 cup of water before overflowing.

I can't say about the neck issue as I've never had any trouble with my neck hurting after dives with any mask - though I'm rarely down for longer than 90 minutes.

Aloha, Tim
 
I noticed that PADI is going to offer a specialty course for this mask. Why would a mask need a specialty course other than the obviou$ ?
 
7milehi:
I noticed that PADI is going to offer a specialty course for this mask. Why would a mask need a specialty course other than the obviou$ ?

First, you have to get a read on "what causes a specialty course". I have written a few that are specific to certain geographic locations, much more specific even than saying that "this" particular specialty course is designed for instructing Tactical Divers or possibly Divers doing encounters with the Loch Ness Monster. A Specialty Course is whatever passes muster by the Gods of PADI. They really aren't easy to establish but can be quite rewarding for those who qaulify to teach as well as those who complete the course. They are not all so esoteric- consider giving a "SCUBA Experience" to mentally handicapped kids. It is a wonderment.

That said, from your post, someone must have written a specialty for the HydroOptix mask. In some respects, not so surprising. It is simply not a beginner's mask, it takes some instruction and skill to operate and get any use out of.

Aside from the odd HydroOptix requirement for being as blind as my girlfriend or her Himilayan cat at a -3.0 correction, there are ways that they have engineered to acheive this effect on a temporary basis, making the mask usable. This is the first part of the HydroOptix puzzle. (I am a -1.5 and have good close up vision- the mask works ok for me even still!)

Then add in the things that SCUBA Divers ised to know how to deal with quite well- unfortunately these abilities and skills were "bred out of us" by technology and engineering. The mask, by design, is a high volume meask with purge valves. This baffles a lot of divers.

Any mask (and the squeeze) must be equalized by expelling air thru your nose! The higher the volume, the more noticable it is.

Purge valves? Foreign to most and for good reason. They are not needed in any other mask. Easy to learn how and why to use them here- it's the fast way to purge out any water that is inside- this avoids the next issue....

The mask, also by design, leaves "pools of water" directly in the line of sight. Sure it does- for divers with questionable buoyancy and observational skills. To have this complaint, a diver would have to be doing his observations by staring straight down. Advanced divers ghost along walls on their sides, scanning up and down by moving their heads in a left-right swivel. If you are on a flat reef, you should be scanninfg out and ahead just slightly. In either event, what little water is in the mask would not pool in your line of sight.

HydroOptix and many posters on the internet seem to go through contortions and spasms regarding fogging. I think HO is in bed with SeaGold drops because any buyer for this expensive product simplky can't be convinced that toothpaste will solve and and all issues with mask fogging. Before every dive, I don't care which mask you own- a simple dose of toothpaste and a gentle rub. If you are on a boatload of real professionals (I'm not talking "instructors", Scooter), that's what is passed around. I am sure the Specialty Course perpetuates the myth of the need of Mask defog made from the sweat of the inner-thighs of virgin Swedish Dive Mistresses.

The course? Haven't seen it, but it doesn't surprise me that it exists.

PADI is looking over my Specialty Course that I have put together for the ERDP that I have built a special Ikelite u/w housing for. Maybe soon PADI will do one for the electronic dive compter. the one for "The Orca Edge" looks like it's a go.

The Hydro-Optix mask? It is a wonderful device for an advanced diver- someone who can multi-task and task load.

Check out their website as well as your local dive shows and any pool demos. I always have a HydroOptix mask along on any trip.
 
Hi Doc (RoatanMan),

Thanks for the kind words... inner thighs of virgin Swedish Dive Mistresses LOL. Actually our NanoFOG lens coating, baked on at the factory, works great. The SeaGold is still included, but just as a cleaner -- it has mild surfactant action to help remove body oils / suntan lotion that degrade the NanoFOG performance.
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7milehi wrote:
I noticed that PADI is going to offer a specialty course for this mask. Why would a mask need a specialty course other than the obviou$
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Nobody needs to take this course to use our Double-Dome mask. Lots of people drive cars without a clue how an internal combustion engine works. The course is for those who want to learn about human vision – knowledge is POWER! And can make you a safer diver.

The PADI Double-Dome Specialty Course includes two ocean dives – that’s where most of the money goes. The student course work can be downloaded free:
http://www.hydrooptix.com/vs_pro_padimaster.html
TOPICS:
• Snell’s law of refraction
• Risks of LASIK
• Preventing eye infections
• Why it REALLY is important to get a regular eye exam (doctors looking INTO your eye can see early-stage eye disease before it does lasting damage -- BEFORE you have any symptoms)
• What’s a diopter (metric unit)
• Why a Snellen number (e.g. 20/40) tells LITTLE about your vision
• What causes astigmatism
• How Presbyopia creates more challenges for divers

A few minutes during each ocean dives is devoted to A-to-B comparisons – flat-mask vs. Double-Dome mask:
• Side-by-side comparisons of situational awareness
• Size and distance estimation
• Eye-hand coordination tasks.

-- Then enjoy the rest of each dive.

Our Double-Dome mask merely restores your natural vision – what you have enjoyed your entire life above water. You will discover how flat masks make underwater navigation and keeping track of your buddy more challenging. Flat masks honestly do block over 75% of your normal field-of-view.
 
JonKranhouse:
Hi gang,

Here's some comments on the last 3 postings (above).

Capt. Jim (COST)
Agreed, I don't like the high cost - and future designs will allow lower cost (fewer parts / less labor to assemble). The Scuba industry is small, and unit-volume determines price I pay for parts... our costs from the various vendors would drop 50% only if our volume was 10X higher or more than it is now -- and I would be happy to pass the savings along, because I'm in this to help make diving safer. The idea of profit-gouging on something like seat belts / airbags is disgusting.
Also, the radius of the domes of the 4.5DD creates a stronger Rx power, which requires the CoverLens... which then requires the retractor (normal $25 retail for just a high-quality retractor). If we sold the mask alone with no accessories, the cost would be lower but divers would suffer bad overall "usability."

How does this mask make diving safer?
 
Dixie Sands wrote:
How does this mask make diving safer?
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Simple. A flat mask blocks over 75% of your normal above-water field-of-view. That cripples normal situational awareness -- your horizontal view is less than 75-degrees vs. a normal 200-degrees +. Such vision above water would restrict you from driving a car anywhere in the world, unless you had a special permit as a one-eyed driver. And your perception of size and depth are screwed up by refraction error.

Our mask restores normal vision underwater (170-degrees / zero magnification).
• Superior situational awareness improves navigation.
• Proper depth perception improves eye-hand coordination (for spearfishing, you get a fighting fish on a stringer faster) and helps buoyancy control (improved sense of where you are in the water column).
• Keep track of your buddy or students better.

The polycarbonate lens is 10X stronger than tempered glass -- we've gotten e-mails from divers who face-planted into rocks (the lobster did NOT get away!) and smacked the pointy end of rebar inside a silted-up wreck.
 
Jon,

I wear a -2.25 contact lenes. When will you have a mask out that I can use without using any contact lenes ?
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/teric/

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