You're doing it WRONG

[mddolson]

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uncle pug bubbled: I'm impressed"
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I must say I'm pleased, Uncle Pug, based on our previous conversations and your posts, I'd guess it takes a fair bit to impress you.

I didn't think that admitting I'd made a mistake was a big deal , when it was pointed out to me I'd gone off on a tangent, merely sought to correct it.

MikeD


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If it ain't divin, it ain't happenin!

 

[detroit diver]

mddolson once bubbled...
Detroit Diver: you are right!

My mistake. I have jumped to the wrong conclusion. I have reread the posting and appologise for my assumption.

I mistakenly took the rant as a response to criticism (spelling) from DIR proponents, and IT IS NOT.

I have edited my post accordingly.

Mike D

Fair enough. I wiped out my post as best as I could. It wouldn't let me delete it.

 

[Bob3]

... around my neck.

Some of us don't have necks.

To get back on the original weight belt topic again there Seadog, if both you & your wife/buddy are doing the left hand thing, that's all that matters (unless the DM wants to dress & undress you, and follow you around being your valet).
There's a wide enough variety of weight belts & buckles, harnesses, integrated pockets, etc. that the "right hand rule" just doesn't hack it any more.

I'd like to see his reaction to the suicide clip I use for a weight belt buckle. :tease:

 

[victoriawtx]

interpreted as a sign of panic, BUT, I am sure that there would be real, additional signs of panic if someone were truly in distress. Mask on or off, is not the noting determinant. LOL I would pay much more attention to someone who was obviously flailing around, arms in the air, gasping for breath, making strange sounds or even, looking like they are in a panic. LOL

For an instructor to indicate that the mask on the forehead is a sign of distress is correct, but hopefully, we are all a bit sharper than that. LOL

People seem to delight in criticism. Whether it is to make us feel inadequate, or to make themselves feel more important, (or both), it gets to be really ridiculous. Safe diving, common sense, and respect for those around you are what's critical.

ASIDE:
When I first started graduate school, almost every nasty, mean comment I would get from my supervising professor would send me to the ladies room in tears. Then I realized that he was that way with everyone, and even though some of the things he says to me still upset me, I have tried to accumulate a thicker skin. And, also work on lightening up a bit. LOL And there's this little vodoo doll I made of him...... LOL

Do it your way, and be proud

 

[gzscuba]

SueMermaid once bubbled...
I get similar "feedback".
If I put my mask around my neck, it would rip out all of my hair. All of it. (I know, divers have no place having such long hair, so sue me).

Hi Suemermaid,

I've got long hair and initially my hair really suffered when I went diving (when I wasn't wearing a hood, that is). I found at my LDS these replacement mask straps that have a neoprene pad. They're called Mask Marsoops. The nice thing is that the neoprene pad doesn't stick to your hair, and it also will float your mask. Maybe some will say that it's just a useless trinket to part me from my money, but I like it. I have much less of a problem dealing with my hair now.

Hope this is useful.

 

[victoriawtx]

for my hair, since it's beyond my shoulders. Mine is called a 'slap strap' and it sounds exactly like what Greg described. I purchased mine at scuba-accessories.com, and I don't remember it costing much, maybe 5-10 dollars? It really makes taking my mask on and off much easier. No more hair ripping out. OUCH! LOL

 

[theslyfox01]

Anytime some DM feels the need to share his half wit opinions, just turn around and ignore him. Most of the things they suggest, they can't even explain the reasoning for.

Johnathan Mitchell
NAUI Instructor

Very sound advice, I'd broaden it though to say that whenever a half-wit instructor says something you ignore that as well :devilish:

 

[MikeFerrara]

theslyfox01 once bubbled...


Very sound advice, I'd broaden it though to say that whenever a half-wit instructor says something you ignore that as well :devilish:

I would add that listening to half-witts in general is a bad practice.
However, base on how most divers are kitted up I'd say this advice comes too late for some.

 

[SueMermaid]

gzscuba once bubbled...


Hi Suemermaid,

I've got long hair and initially my hair really suffered when I went diving (when I wasn't wearing a hood, that is). I found at my LDS these replacement mask straps that have a neoprene pad. They're called Mask Marsoops. The nice thing is that the neoprene pad doesn't stick to your hair, and it also will float your mask. Maybe some will say that it's just a useless trinket to part me from my money, but I like it. I have much less of a problem dealing with my hair now.

Hope this is useful.

Greg,

I love that mask pouch thingie, I do have one. Not only is it easier on the hair, but like you said, it keeps your mask from sinking, PLUS, as an added bonus (if you call now), it also doubles as a handy-dandy mask storage container.
I think it's one of the best inventions.
Still, the mask rips out my hair, it gets caught in the nylon straps that attach to the lens part of the mask.

:idea: I do have a good thought, though, maybe I can attach yet another clip or velcro thingie to my BC to hold my mask? Anyone ever try this?

 

[Walter]

It doesn't hurt to listen to half wits, you sometimes learn even from idiots, but not unless you keep an open mind. Listen to what they say, evaluate it then accept the good and reject the bad. Sometimes you learn what not to do by watching and listening to idiots.

The reason for the right hand release on a weight belt is because BC's have a left hand release. If they are opposite each other, you don't release the wrong one by mistake. Rig it as you prefer, but it's often better to stick with conventions when there's no compelling reason to ignore it.

The mask on your forehead isn't something I'd recommend, because it is easy to lose a mask. OTOH, it is not a signal or sign of distress. I've seen lots of panicked divers and yes, they do reject gear. Sometimes they reject their mask, they never place it neatly on their forehead.

I remember one dive with a buddy who is totally at home in the water. We were on a float dive, so we were relaxing on the surface while waiting for the boat to come pick us up. Ana was totally relaxed, she looked like she was in a recliner about to nod off. She was leaning back, ankles crossed and her mask was on her forehead. An inexperienced, in water DM surfaced with hias group nearby. He kept shouting, "Are you in distress?" He's a braver man than me. Never disturb Ana unnecessarily when she's relaxed. She was obviously not in distress.