Yikes... dont drink in this bar...

[Mike]

 

[1KWIK_69]

In our area, not a lot of "innocent" bystanders. Just people up to no good,
who know the dangers of the lifestyle.

And when one of these low life's little 4 year old sister catches one of the bullets that's shredding through the house when the rival gang does a drive by, I'm sure that was directed too. The little girl should have known the dangers of being born into a family with a brother that was a dumb arse gang banger.

Maybe the thugs in Mexico are just smarter and better at what they do that the morons we have in the U.S. because they seem to only hit their actual target???

Then again, the moron's in the U.S. are shooting with a handicap. I'm sure it's hard to aim a 9mm while holding it on its side with one hand while you're holding up your drawers from center crotch with the other!

 

[1KWIK_69]

Only in America.

 

[cruiser]

I have to ask, what PR machine? Are you speaking of people on this forum speaking out about how safe they feel in Cozumel?

No, people on this forum speaking out about how safe they feel in Cozumel is not a PR machine.

If the PR machine is something other than people on this forum, please tell us where to find it. If they were hiding the fact that there was a cartel hit on some drug dealer that crossed them, why is it in the news?

Personally, I don't know of any crimes that are being hidden.

Maybe what you see as a PR machine trying to make things benign, is really just reasonable people trying to put things in perspective?

Who's perspective? Perspectives are as unique as individuals.

 

[cruiser]

What "PR machine"?

You're either aware of PR workings or you're not. If a person has never had exposure to PR in a corporate or other setting, you won't recognize it. When it's done well, it's ever so subtle. When it's done badly, it's an embarrassment.

Does the Cozumel chamber of commerce post here?

I have no idea. Does Cozumel even have a Chamber of Commerce? I thought that was an American thang.

We are all independent people posting our opinions.

Are you sure about that? I don't agree that "we are all independent people posting our opinions." Surely there's a poster here and there who has a vested commercial interest on the island.

Calling us a "PR machine" just looks like a tactic to attempt to invalidate our points of view. Please stick to the facts and cut out the name-calling. Thanks.

Just bringing my own points of view to the table, and you weren't called a PR machine, so don't take it personally.

 

[ggunn]

You're either aware of PR workings or you're not. If a person has never had exposure to PR in a corporate or other setting, you won't recognize it. When it's done well, it's ever so subtle. When it's done badly, it's an embarrassment.



I have no idea. Does Cozumel even have a Chamber of Commerce? I thought that was an American thang.



Are you sure about that? I don't agree that "we are all independent people posting our opinions." Surely there's a poster here and there who has a vested commercial interest on the island.



Just bringing my own points of view to the table, and you weren't called a PR machine, so don't take it personally.

So who are you calling a PR machine? Why don't you say what you mean instead of trying to impress us with how you "get it" and the rest of us don't? I don't see why a "PR machine" would waste its time posting here, anyway. Most of us have long ago made up our minds about Cozumel and don't need convincing, and the audience here is vanishingly small in the grand scheme of things.

 

[cruiser]

So who are you calling a PR machine?

A PR machine is an entity, not a who.

Why don't you say what you mean instead of trying to impress us with how you "get it" and the rest of us don't? I don't see why a "PR machine" would waste its time posting here, anyway.

Wow, the "rest of you" don't get it? There are some fellow posters who might not want to be painted with that brush stroke.

Most of us have long ago made up our minds about Cozumel and don't need convincing, and the audience here is vanishingly small in the grand scheme of things.

As it should, every thread eventually comes to an end.

Suffice it to say, we must agree to disagree.

Keep enjoying the awesome trips to Cozumel, as I will too (unless Dallas miraculously gets Caribbean blue-warm water and palm trees--but I won't hold my breath).

 

[JenLoves2Dive]

I guess I have a unique perspective. I'm from Virginia Beach but have been living in Washington DC (just a few miles out...but close enough) for 20 years. I still go out when I am home in Va Beach and I also go out to many places in DC.

I was mugged and attacked in Richmond, VA, when I was in my 20s. I was a singer in a band and I had just finished a gig. It was late at night, I was not paying attention and was getting into my car when I was attacked. I should have watched where I was and had someone escort me to my car. I was extremely lucky, as I already had the car door open and the person rushed me, grabbed me by my throat and started to strangle me. I was lucky that I was able to fight like hell and able get a death grip on the horn and he ran away. The police figured out who it was. The guy used to work at the place where I was singing and had basically been watching me, as we had been playing there for several weeks. When they apprehended him, he had a set of nunchucks in his car as well as some other things, to do harm. I was extremely lucky.

With that being said, I am very cautious where I am and of my surroundings...if something doesn't feel right (like getting into an elevator with someone or walking into a parking garage alone) I leave and quick.

I have been traveling to Cozumel for 17 years. I bought a home there 3 years ago for a good reason...because as a woman I feel tremendously safe there. I also have no hesitation to walk at night from various places in town back to my home. I would, of course, walk back on a well traveled road, such as Avenida Melgar. Most of the time, I get someone to walk with me but i am just saying I feel very safe. I also pay close attention to my surroundings and fashion my purse over my neck and shoulder so it can't be grabbed.

What happened to Apple is very unfortunate, but a lot of us didn't hear anything about it because it happened very early in the morning and also it was not at the shop in town but back in a small neighborhood where she lives that is much more isolated.

To accuse people of watering down the story down and trying to downplay everything, I believe is very unfair. Speculate all you want...have at it, but the fact of the matter is, sh*t happens and it happens everywhere because there are dishonest people everywhere, even in paradise. Be careful. Be aware of your surroundings and don't take unnecessary risks. It's easy to get a false sense of security. We all need to be vigilant and careful no matter where we are, especially if you have been drinking. I can tell you, wholeheartedly, that I feel safer in Cozumel than any other city I have ever lived in or traveled to and for a good reason.
Thanks.



(I am going to post this on both threads.)

 

[1KWIK_69]

A PR machine is an entity, not a who.



Wow, the "rest of you" don't get it? There are some fellow posters who might not want to be painted with that brush stroke.



As it should, every thread eventually comes to an end.

Suffice it to say, we must agree to disagree.

Keep enjoying the awesome trips to Cozumel, as I will too (unless Dallas miraculously gets Caribbean blue-warm water and palm trees--but I won't hold my breath).

I find it amazine that you went to the trouble of answering two posts asking you to clarify what you meant, and yet you didn't really say anything. It just sounded like you were trying to impress us with your intellect? Maybe you should go into politics?

 

[cruiser]

I find it amazine that you went to the trouble of answering two posts asking you to clarify what you meant, and yet you didn't really say anything. It just sounded like you were trying to impress us with your intellect? Maybe you should go into politics?

I've answered alot, just not to your satisfaction. Again we'll have to agree to disagree and SOME OF US need to do a lot more diving (me included).For the record, I enjoy going to Coz, it's one of my favorite diving destinations (in case anyone missed that earlier).