Would you share your PDC data?

[fdog]

The Sensus Ultra data schema has always been public knowledge. It can be downloaded here.

Here is the raw data page in the Sensus Manager:

This is a translation of the raw data string, which Dave exported (see above). The parameters as listed are:

Pretty much the only really non-anonymous data is the SN and the IP for a submitted record.

<shrugs> It all depends on what is important to you. For me, the potential benefit of uploading data to VPlanner is high (improvement of the software and algorithm); I balance this against the low potential of getting my socks sued off, and choose to submit data.


All the best, James

 

[HowardE]

It seems like a lot of paranoid people - some of whom use their real names as part of their ScubaBoard id's? I'm just sayin.

 

[Jax]

There is a lot more than 5 countries in europe last I checked..

So true! But I only toured the BeNeLux, I never skied there!

 

[Jax]

It seems like a lot of paranoid people - some of whom use their real names as part of their ScubaBoard id's? I'm just sayin.

Maybe some of them are blissfully ignorant, or just don't give a . . . . lovely.

 

[FishOutUvH2O]

It seems like a lot of paranoid people - some of whom use their real names as part of their ScubaBoard id's? I'm just sayin.

It seems like some people are more interested in criticizing other people and their choice than answering the OP's question and worrying about their own choice. . . I'm just sayin'.

 

[HowardE]

It seems like some people are more interested in criticizing other people and their choice than answering the OP's question and worrying about their own choice. . . I'm just sayin'.

I participate in DAN Project Dive Exploration.

Happy now?

 

[*dave*]

If things get to the point that the court is involved, shouldn't you be more concerned about the data you're packing around on your PDC? They won't need to hack into a public domain database.

It would be good to collect the make and model of the computer submitting the data, as well as being able to identify records for each computer submitting data. The more data collected, the more information can be presented. Age, years of experience, weight... heh, that must freak you out, eh?

The data collected would actually have limited value. There's just too many variables to produce definitive results. Still, it would be far better than what we currently have.

It is the variables and holes in the data which I believe would make it virtually worthless in court, but I'm not an attorney, either. Perhaps one will weigh in.... Regardless, if this is a concern for you, I hope you're not diving a PDC.... Especially one with the IR transmitter. I've heard satellites can read those.

That's my point, again, Dave....these values are going to be used to "derive" other data. If I were a lawyer I could "derive" you right into a bad outcome, guaranteed. If I wanted to make any sort of point I could manipulate the derived data and make my point. You and I are not the same physically and if we dove the exact same profile with the exact same computer producing two sets of the exact same data the derived data would not accurately describe what is actually going on physically with either of us. There isn't enough data. So unless the data set is full enough and distinct enough and accurate enough it really doesn't tell you much. But you sure can have fun playing around with it! And someone will know it's YOU, Dave. I rest my case (damn, starting to sound like a lawyer ).

 

[geokr]

It all depends on what is important to you. For me, the potential benefit of uploading data to VPlanner is high (improvement of the software and algorithm); I balance this against the low potential of getting my socks sued off, and choose to submit data.

Improving the software and algorithm....I'm still having a hard time seeing how this data is going to do that. My computer's algorithm is based on the NOAA tables which were created after extensive, controlled scientific studies. This is nowhere near that sophisticated so there's going to be no improvement provided that will change those tables. I can't see it but if you can please explain. What I do see is a collection of data that is intended to reveal diver's habits...what are they doing when they are diving. Are they sticking to the rules, following the profile recommendations, etc. That's behavior not physiology. The only result, therefore, that could come out of this data is more cautions on bad behavior. And, maybe, more rules forced upon you to govern your behavior as a diver. But nothing that's going to change those scientifically-based tables that the computers run on.

 

[FishOutUvH2O]

It seems like some people are more interested in criticizing other people and their choice than answering the OP's question and worrying about their own choice. . . I'm just sayin'.

I participate in DAN Project Dive Exploration.

Happy now?

Yes I am, but it has nothing to do with you answering. I like my life, so I'm a normally happy person anyway.

It just seems that all of this effort in criticizing others people's choice and then the defense of that choice, has little to do with helping a fellow SB'er answer their question.

 

[theduckguru]

No, I don't even down load on to my PC.