Why the Prejudice about DIR or GUE

[TheRedHead]

Thanks for the clarification.

PS I 'need' a long hose for all my dives....... whether someone else (outside of my buddy) agrees or not is irrelevant to me. Oh... is that an arrogant statement?

I always dive with a long hose, but I must disagree with Soggy about his Cozumel comment. If find it is a place where you can encounter challenging conditions and restrictions where a long hose is the only sensible choice.

 

[Jason B]

What is someone goes OOA in Devil's Throat?

Let's not go there again....

 

[Soggy]

I always dive with a long hose, but I must disagree with Soggy about his Cozumel comment. If find it is a place where you can encounter challenging conditions and restrictions where a long hose is the only sensible choice.

You misunderstood. I was just saying that the advantages may not appear obvious to those who are doing nothing but warm water vacation dives. I wasn't suggesting that a long hose was less beneficial in Cozumel. When I went there, I just did drift dives and stayed out of the overheads because I, like many others, was diving with unknown buddies at times.

 

[Meng_Tze]

I always dive with a long hose, but I must disagree with Soggy about his Cozumel comment. If find it is a place where you can encounter challenging conditions and restrictions where a long hose is the only sensible choice.

This is what he said:
'll agree that for your typical recreational diver in Cozumel, those advantages may not be so obvious since the environment is so forgiving, but what many of us refer to as recreational dives are very different than that.'

I read in that that the benefits may not be obvious.... doesn't mean it is not needed or can be beneficial. Dont fall over the location Cozumel, it could have easily been ..... (fill in the blank with any place where predominantly rec. divers are)

But I am speaking on behalf of....

 

[Meng_Tze]

There you go... same conclusion.. he answered while I was typing

 

[Soggy]

There you go... same conclusion.. he answered while I was typing

I've got the fastest fingers in the east....

 

[TheRedHead]

Cozumel is my favorite place to dive and is close to the cenotes as well. I nominate Bonaire as the typical easy-peasy dive destination, although if one tries, you can make it challenging too.

 

[lamont]

Exactly! I dive alone, and always with a pony. Twice I have had some macho DIR dude tell me I did not not what I was doing. I responded by asking them how many dives did they have under their belt, in both cases it was less than 150. I simply responded that I have 0ver 4000 most of which were done solo and I am still alive.

to sum it up, DIR gets it bad reputation from just these type of people, folks that have lots of gear, little experiance and a do it my way or no way attitude.

And the rest of the industry gets a bad reputation in the eyes of those who dive DIR from people claiming that you can't dive DIR in cold water (posted in this very thread), that a snorkel is essential safety equipment, that a long hose will choke you, that a mask on your forehead is a sign of distress, etc.

Should I judge you on the behavior of a few individuals who dive like you do?

What you have there is not a problem with DIR divers, but a problem with jerks. Call it what it actually is. If those guys had fallen in with a bunch of PADI divers instead of GUE, they'd be trying to rescue me because I wear my mask on my forehead...

And if we're going to blame everyone based on the worst behavior of those who have taken classes from their training agency, I've got a whole bunch of snorkel-and-splitfin-wearning, bicycle kicking open water divers that I'd REALLY like to have a talk with you about...

 

[The Horn]

I have rarely meet other divers at the same place unless on a charter and then I dive with my buddy who shares the same phylosophy on diving, to us, its the best mix of all forms of diving and equipment cofiguration for the type of diving we are doing at the time. I don't offer advice or for that matter accept much of it while preping for the dive.

What would you do: Two guys diving close to your area, you are not diving just passing by. You chat abit about the vis, water temp and begin to leave, you overhear one of the divers you just spoke to say to an elderly gentleman, who had inquired how deep they were going to dive: "Well we will staying about 40 to 60 feet as the air in our tanks turns to poison at about 100 feet ". They were not diving a high nitrox mix or anything special just air. I just walked away. Saw them surface a half hour later and one had barotrauma and a nose bleed at 30 feet.......although this happens the guy was saying that his ear hurt but a few beers should fix it right up, they left rather quickly.

What organization do slam on that one.....

The only real reason to slam any organization is insecurity, jealousy etc etc...

 

[TheRedHead]

I think the group who are more likely to give you unwanted advice in person are recreational dive instructors you happen to meet on boats (please don't take it personally anyone!).