1_T_Submariner
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No Snorkel, Mask on Forehead.
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Why NOT DIR?
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Hank49
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If my job goes to hell, do you have a spare room I can rent?
I'll bring my Les Paul...
Can you sing? Can you bring a drummer and a bass player too?
If bringing your LP is excess baggage and too expensive, I have one...and two other electrics.....a Fender and Peavey amps, and two acoustics...we're on it dude.
sberanek
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I dove once with a DIR/GUE guy who was very nice . His buddies were delayed and he wanted to try out some new piece of something or another. He asked if he could join me and my buddy, and we said "sure." We were dressed in 3mm with singel AL80's and he was doing drysuit and doubles so we had to decide where we were going and what we were going to do.
After a brief equipment run through and dive planning (this is when I found out he was DIR/GUE) we went and dove. It was a good dive. Nothing eventful happened and I was amazed at his bouyancy control (he stayed about 3" above the plants and didn't ever disturb them). Then his buddies showed up, they gave him jibes about not waiting for them (all in fun), we said good-bye, and that was all.
I also had a chance to be near some guys who were pontificating on why DIR is best and PADI sucks. They were just general a-holes and probablly behaved like that in all aspects of life so I don't hold them as the DIR standard.
As for why I don't do DIR... not really that informed on the subject, some of what I do know doesn't really have all that much interest for me, and there isn't anywhere within a few hours drive that has much of a DIR community.
--Shannon
After a brief equipment run through and dive planning (this is when I found out he was DIR/GUE) we went and dove. It was a good dive. Nothing eventful happened and I was amazed at his bouyancy control (he stayed about 3" above the plants and didn't ever disturb them). Then his buddies showed up, they gave him jibes about not waiting for them (all in fun), we said good-bye, and that was all.
I also had a chance to be near some guys who were pontificating on why DIR is best and PADI sucks. They were just general a-holes and probablly behaved like that in all aspects of life so I don't hold them as the DIR standard.
As for why I don't do DIR... not really that informed on the subject, some of what I do know doesn't really have all that much interest for me, and there isn't anywhere within a few hours drive that has much of a DIR community.
--Shannon
Yeah, sing and play bass (got a Gibson bass). I'll also bring a blender and a box of boat drink stuffCan you sing? Can you bring a drummer and a bass player too?
If bringing your LP is excess baggage and too expensive, I have one...and two other electrics.....a Fender and Peavey amps, and two acoustics...we're on it dude.
You're on - if the job goes to hell I'm heading your way![/HIJACK]
We now return you to your regularly scheduled DIR/Anti-DIR festival of convoluted misunderstandings and endless pontification...
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The cost is what it costs where I live. I've seen two DIR-F classes offered in this area, and the students had to pay for the flight, room and board of the instructor.
Yknow...the whole bashing thing is so old. If it's not DIR, then it's PADI, or SSI or NAUI...BLAH BLAH BLAH. The whole my snorkel is so much better than your snorkel is very tiring boys. 
It's frustrating as a newer diver to even begin to know where to go with my diving, let alone shuffle through the politcal BS. I was not satisfied with what little training I received in OW. I was not satisfied with the lack of answers I received, or the shock of being left on a dive trip, underwater by those that trained me. I was lucky to have found someone who has some experience and knowledge in DIR that has guided me and my diving to a much better place. I have also met new divers who have similiar goals and in one weekend, we found that we work together pretty well, and I am definitely excited to dive again with them. My comfort level is much higher when diving with someone who understands my gear, or if they don't, they listen to my predive brief and don't blow me off when I am trying to show them that in an emergency, how I will be deploying my gear to help them. DIR is a type of diving that takes a commitment to put it into practice. Most aspects are based on safety and improving on gear that failed miserably when unfortunate dive accidents happened. The gear has not failed me so far, my previous jacket bc with weight integrated pockets failed me 2x. I lost my weights, and thank GOD it wasn't at depth, especially on the trip where I was left to go to the ascent line by myself. I have experienced an OOA and had air from my buddy in 3 seconds, because he was aware of me at all times and deployed a long hose very quickly,as we are trained to do. The divers I had the pleasure of diving with both had instances of gear failure and missing buddies. They are lucky to be alive to tell us about it. My goal in DIR is to dive well, dive safe, dive as a team, and come back with my team in one piece to dive another day.
Like I have said before, DIR/GUE isn't for everyone, and it isn't for someone who takes it with a light commitment. If you don't even educate yourself in the basics, then when you espouse nonsense, all you do is push a stereotype and make yourself look silly!
Can't we all just get along?
Happy diving!
Carolyn:sharks:
It's frustrating as a newer diver to even begin to know where to go with my diving, let alone shuffle through the politcal BS. I was not satisfied with what little training I received in OW. I was not satisfied with the lack of answers I received, or the shock of being left on a dive trip, underwater by those that trained me. I was lucky to have found someone who has some experience and knowledge in DIR that has guided me and my diving to a much better place. I have also met new divers who have similiar goals and in one weekend, we found that we work together pretty well, and I am definitely excited to dive again with them. My comfort level is much higher when diving with someone who understands my gear, or if they don't, they listen to my predive brief and don't blow me off when I am trying to show them that in an emergency, how I will be deploying my gear to help them. DIR is a type of diving that takes a commitment to put it into practice. Most aspects are based on safety and improving on gear that failed miserably when unfortunate dive accidents happened. The gear has not failed me so far, my previous jacket bc with weight integrated pockets failed me 2x. I lost my weights, and thank GOD it wasn't at depth, especially on the trip where I was left to go to the ascent line by myself. I have experienced an OOA and had air from my buddy in 3 seconds, because he was aware of me at all times and deployed a long hose very quickly,as we are trained to do. The divers I had the pleasure of diving with both had instances of gear failure and missing buddies. They are lucky to be alive to tell us about it. My goal in DIR is to dive well, dive safe, dive as a team, and come back with my team in one piece to dive another day.
Like I have said before, DIR/GUE isn't for everyone, and it isn't for someone who takes it with a light commitment. If you don't even educate yourself in the basics, then when you espouse nonsense, all you do is push a stereotype and make yourself look silly!
Can't we all just get along?
Happy diving!
Carolyn:sharks:
Yknow...the whole bashing thing is so old. If it's not DIR, then it's PADI, or SSI or NAUI...BLAH BLAH BLAH. The whole my snorkel is so much better than your snorkel is very tiring boys.
Well lives4sharks I doubt it will change. The same half a dozen constant posters will post, over and over.
Just go diving.
Yknow...the whole bashing thing is so old. If it's not DIR, then it's PADI, or SSI or NAUI...BLAH BLAH BLAH. The whole my snorkel is so much better than your snorkel is very tiring boys.
Well lives4sharks I doubt it will change. The same half a dozen constant posters will post, over and over.
Just go diving.
Yeah, it makes it hard to learn tho. But hey, nothing is keeping me from diving that's for sure!
Happy diving!
Carolyn:sharks:
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I think you really need to add up the total hours of instruction first. I think you are underestimating the length of time spent in class. Fundamentals alone requires a minimum of 20 hours and most will tell you it's much longer than that. The class has lengthened since I was involved, so the price per hour has likely gone down. It's highly unlikely that the cost per hour is 3 to 4 times as much and in some cases may actually be less. The cost of bringing instructors in is shared by all in the class so even adding that in, you likely won't see anywhere near the 3 to 4 times you stated. I've arranged and been financially responsible for bringing in three instructors from Seattle to the midwest on two occasions. Even with the higher prices today, it's really still quite a bargain considering there really aren't many instructors in other agencies offering a course that compares in quantity and quality of material covered.
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