why do people do this ???

[El Orans]

I cant access this link (maybe a singles only thing? ) Could someone copy and paste it please? thanks

If you go to Quick Links > Group Preferences you can (temporarily) become a Scuba Single and read the post in question.

Laurens

 

[ianr33]

OK. Just dont tell my wife

 

[El Orans]

OK. Just dont tell my wife

I don't need to, she's probably just like my wife. They've got this telepathy thing going on.

 

[lamont]

*sigh* i really didn't need to read don's post...

if that's his response, rule #1 applies...

 

[JeffG]

if that's his response, rule #1 applies...

Yep

 

[Corigan]

I hate to agree, but rule #1 seems to be right on the money with this issue.

Matt

 

[grazie42]

While I, without ever having met DD, dived or spoken to him, would tend to agree (based on that thread about pony´s and the Utila one) with the previous 3 posters. But I think what NWGreatfulDiver was looking for in this thread was UNDERSTANDING of why people would choose to do those dives.

I can come up with some "plausible" reasons for why people would do this ie thrill etc. but I´d really like to hear from people like DD WHY? I don´t think jumping on these divers and "rule no1ing" them will encourage such divers to step forward and explain why they do it.

What I´ve heard from DD so far is "it wasn´t a big deal...I don´t think it was THAT dangerous"...if that´s why he chooses to do those dives then at least we know why (if I´ve interpreted his responses correctly)...others may (propably do) have different opinions about this but if that´s truly what he thinks then we have at least one answer...I´d like to hear more from other people doing these kinds of dives (instead of from people who don´t)...maybe thats just me though...

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

While I, without ever having met DD, dived or spoken to him, would tend to agree (based on that thread about pony´s and the Utila one) with the previous 3 posters. But I think what NWGreatfulDiver was looking for in this thread was UNDERSTANDING of why people would choose to do those dives.

I can come up with some "plausible" reasons for why people would do this ie thrill etc. but I´d really like to hear from people like DD WHY? I don´t think jumping on these divers and "rule no1ing" them will encourage such divers to step forward and explain why they do it.

What I´ve heard from DD so far is "it wasn´t a big deal...I don´t think it was THAT dangerous"...if that´s why he chooses to do those dives then at least we know why (if I´ve interpreted his responses correctly)...others may (propably do) have different opinions about this but if that´s truly what he thinks then we have at least one answer...I´d like to hear more from other people doing these kinds of dives (instead of from people who don´t)...maybe thats just me though...

Thank you ... and you are correct. I did not intend this thread to become a place where we beat up on a fellow ScubaBoard member ... and I'd prefer not to.

While my views differ from those of DD, Hank49, and other members of the board, I do not believe that their perspectives are any less valid than my own. It would be most helpful if we could understand the reasoning behind our different approaches to diving.

Then, perhaps, we could come to understand why some people expose themselves to the possibility of accidents such as the ones that I referenced at the beginning of this thread ... and perhaps learn something in the process.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[DandyDon]

Good morning gang...

Thank you ... and you are correct. I did not intend this thread to become a place where we beat up on a fellow ScubaBoard member ... and I'd prefer not to.

While my views differ from those of DD, Hank49, and other members of the board, I do not believe that their perspectives are any less valid than my own. It would be most helpful if we could understand the reasoning behind our different approaches to diving.

Then, perhaps, we could come to understand why some people expose themselves to the possibility of accidents such as the ones that I referenced at the beginning of this thread ... and perhaps learn something in the process.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Yeah, sure - like that would get a guy to come out of a foxhole. If I choose to change my mind and post a thread about such, I'll be sure to let you know. No fools in my family, tho, and it's obvious that no matter what I might say or admit, it would just attract more commotion, more work for the Mods, etc. I often quote you to others in how one should instruct, dive, etc, as you can be a very informative & reliable source. But this does not hold water at all taken with your precious criticisms on this thread.

Then there's the members with their one-liners. OMGosh, do people who post like this have any authority in the real wold...

Don I don’t want to attack you on this but...

Sure...

This member had an interesting view tho - from this thread, last week, before this thread was hijacked to become a DD Thunderdome. Since Finless is not a usual target her, one might read his post without an overwhelming desire to flame him. In case anyone missed it, before the dogpile started here this week...

Bob,

I agree whole heartedly with your sentiment. My normal depth range is 35 mtrs (not exactly deep but considering you can drown in 6 inches and the vis is usually not that good where I am) so I always dive with a twin set (I am in the UK, English Channel diver).

HOWEVER, in reply to some earlier comments from various people concerning why do deep dives on air or on single cylinders or why do bounce dives. Well, why not if that is what floats their boat.

My deepest ever dive (2 years ago) was on hols in Tenerife and I did a 60 mtr dive on a single 12 ltr with 180 bar at the start of the dive + it was the second dive of the day. Stupid? Yes (by modern conventions). But I still mention it so I guess I must be a bit proud of it.

I hadn't expected it to be so deep and as I was so chilled out from diving in clear waters (for a change) and enjoying the view and the buzz of doing my deepest dive I was happy to keep dropping down (albeit with my SPG pressed to the front of my mask). The view back up to the surface watching all those different sets of bubbles heading upwards was great - I'm easily impressed when I'm narked. My dive very quickly turned into a bounce dive when I assessed how much gas I had etc. I ascended on my own whilst the others followed the bottom route to the shot line. Had something gone wrong I would without doubt have been screwed.

My point, which I'm not making very well is that I normally dive very safely (I hope)with redundancy of everything (except me) but once in a while it's nice to take a bit of a risk.

Deep air diving is becoming increasingly frowned upon. Why? Some people like it and don't want helium. I'd use He because when I'm narked I tend to forget the details of the dive.

Bounce diving - it's an experience and not for everyone but why not if someone wants to do it. I don't care what anyone says but MOST divers are proud of their deepest dive and even happier if they are the deepest diver in the room. I'd certainly do a bounce dive if it was somewhere nice - very occasionally.

Single cylinder - I never do it in the UK BUT always on holiday - why do I accept that? I firmly believe the only person you can really rely on is yourself + I like a bit of solo diving so redundancy becomes second nature. No excuse for that in my book, especially if you are doing something "challenging".

It is becoming 'de rigeur', IMO, these days to frown upon people who want to take a risk or push the limits a bit. I see it on the dive fora where people may be castigated for going below their C Card max depth (which is only a recommended depth) etc. It just seems that you need permission to do almost anything these days and limits are being imposed by others all the time. I am probably getting parnoid in my old age and maybe you don't suffer the same in the USA?

Anyway, apologies for all that waffle ...... there may have been a point to it somewhere ......

Also, please don't mistake my flippant attitude as being not caring - I dislike hearing about the demise of any diver as much as any other diver does.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Good morning gang...

Yeah, sure - like that would get a guy to come out of a foxhole. If I choose to change my mind and post a thread about such, I'll be sure to let you know. No fools in my family, tho, and it's obvious that no matter what I might say or admit, it would just attract more commotion, more work for the Mods, etc. I often quote you to others in how one should instruct, dive, etc, as you can be a very informative & reliable source. But this does not hold water at all taken with your precious criticisms on this thread.
...

I don't believe I've criticized you on this or any other thread. Perhaps you can direct me to where you think I did ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)