It sounds like you except responsibility for visiting the sins of the father on the son. Beating a child has been shown to only accomplish two things:
- it teaches them to lie to avoid future pain.
- it almost guarantees that they will beat their children.
Me, I accept responsibility for raising my son ... and he's never been hit by an adult.
Totally not the topic of any thread but OMG are you kidding me? Wow. Just wow.
you guys are kill me....! Never once did I say I beat my kid... not one time but yet you make the assumption!!! You either don't have any kids or your kidding yourself... If you had kids, are you telling me you never smacked their hand when they were reaching for something such as grabbing candy or such at the store or maybe kept pulling on the dogs ears after you have repeatedly corrected them??? Never once gave them a crack on the bottom with your hand...? Never... ever???
Me, I remember doing both of those things when he was quite young... but I never slapped him, nor hit him with a closed fist, nor do I ever remember spanking him... but when I said something, he knew it... This boy learned to say "thank you", "please", opened doors, helped the elderly and those in need down stairs, and pretty much always with a smile... He was a honor student while a 4 sport athlete (except for that 4 month period when he found out about girls), tutored kids, took care of his chores, ironed his own shirts when he was old enough, helped with the dishes, and could out ski me down the mountain... as we did live in Lake Tahoe, Steve...
This thread is about ramifications in asking to see a card or not asking... Were all worried about protecting our self from law suites; whether its verifying Certification to see that at least sometime in their life they may have known how to dive safely, or, not to check as for some legal reason this protects you against foolish or dangerous behavior...! I carry insurance in case a kid on a skateboard falls in front of my house, cracks his head on the sidewalk and for some reason I become the responsible party through no fault of my own...
IMO, most law suits are brought about for easy money or not excepting responsibility... NOT ALL but a heck of a lot more than there should be... Hell, Doctors were leaving New Jersey because they could not afford malpractice insurance; at least this was the case some 5 years ago or so...
This thread is also about responsibility...! Some folks have it... some don't!!!
lee
PS One last thought on this... Just in case you didn't know; you don't necessary need to hit your kid, husband, or wife for any of the three to pick up the phone and say you did...!!!
Back to the statement I made to my kid when he was 16 and feeling his oats... Yea, I said it... Not so sure I could have thrown him through every wall but I would have given it an honest attempt... The meaning behind it was "Don't mess with me cause I am older, meaner, and I cheat...!" he knew what it meant... Just like when he would argue with his mom about staying out later than he should... I would hear her arguing with him so I would take the phone and say "get your butt home now!" No arguing... He may not have liked it (heck, I know he didn't like it) but he would be home in a matter of no time...
We were lucky with our kid... and its not like he didn't stub his toe cause he had a couple of moments but he/we got through and he has done pretty well for himself as a Pilot of 10 years in the Air Force and I could not be more proud...!