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[PeterVV]

rjack321> I do not get what you are saying. I did get certified to do deco dives, I do dive deco now and even did before I got certified. I would just like FURTHER education.

Where in my post did anyone read that I am not diving? I dive a couple of times a week but i like to learn more. So, I asked here to get an idea of which course would help me to learn more. I don't need any courses, I just plan to educate myself further sometime during this year.

I figured that I would like to take a wreck penetration course. I know I don't need it because I already do it now, but I might actually end up learning something .

 

[rjack321]

Sounded like you hadn't done decompression proceedures apparently you have(?)

I don't understand why you would desire/need to use helium in your "daily diving" before becoming educated in its use. Several agencies send you straightaway into helium mixes for all deco diving.

 

[PeterVV]

I did not do deco precedures but Adv. Nitrox which includes deco. with stage.

I dive in a club where I fill my tanks either in the clubhouse or on our liveaboard and I can not get helium there and no one else in the club dives trimix. Thats why it feels pointless to get certified not to ever use it.

 

[rjack321]

I did not do deco precedures but Adv. Nitrox which includes deco. with stage.

If Adv. nitrox includes "deco with a stage" what is in deco proceedures?? How to actually plan a deco dive? I don't get the differences in the course contents.

I dive in a club where I fill my tanks either in the clubhouse or on our liveaboard and I can not get helium there and no one else in the club dives trimix. Thats why it feels pointless to get certified not to ever use it.

Sounds like its a self fulfilling prophecy. Nobody knows any better, so nobody wants it, so nobody gets trained in it, so nobody knows any better, repeat for years.

I fill my own tanks at home and don't do very many deco dives without helium. Non-helium deco is pretty much just in MX cave diving and that's so shallow its hard to accumulate any deco time at all anyway.

 

[Kevrumbo]

I have recently finished IANTD Advanced Nitrox and would like to develop my diving further trough education. I guess the next step in IANTD would be trimix but I am not interested in that because most of the diving I will be doing is deco dives in the 30-45m range on air/nitrox. I would like to expand my deco experience and also do some kind of wreck course. What do you suggest to do next?

With a strong Euro and other currencies, many Europeans are coming to Subic Bay Philippines for penetration training on one of the best warm water (27 deg C) wreck overhead practical laboratories in the world. With a variety of wreck site depths from as shallow as only 6m deep (the wide body fuselage of a former Fed-ex Cargo Jet where I spent nearly 90min with my team practicing initial drills and developing skills & techniques), to deep trimix deco dives at over 54m.

Two dive ops that I recommend are:
IANTD, DSAT, GUE Course Details @ Tech Asia
Dive at Boardwalk Dive Center Official Website -

 

[PeterVV]

If Adv. nitrox includes "deco with a stage" what is in deco proceedures?? How to actually plan a deco dive? I don't get the differences in the course contents.



Sounds like its a self fulfilling prophecy. Nobody knows any better, so nobody wants it, so nobody gets trained in it, so nobody knows any better, repeat for years.

I fill my own tanks at home and don't do very many deco dives without helium. Non-helium deco is pretty much just in MX cave diving and that's so shallow its hard to accumulate any deco time at all anyway.

Don't ask me. IANTD (where I am trained) doesnt have deco procedures but TDI has both adv. nitrox and deco procedures. International Training :: Get Certified :: TDI Diver Level Courses :: English

My scuba club is for everyone that wants to join and only a few percentage of the members want to dive trimix so it was decided not to purchase something that only a few percent would use. And no... living downtown i a little apartment I can't just fill at home.


Kevrumbo> Sounds like an awesome place to dive, however I prefer to do my training where I will put it to use. In the cold and dark Scandinavian waters.
I am a wreck junkie and coming to SE Asia this summer so I might drop by though. Is it a good place for non divers too?

 

[Kevrumbo]

. . .Kevrumbo> Sounds like an awesome place to dive, however I prefer to do my training where I will put it to use. In the cold and dark Scandinavian waters. I am a wreck junkie and coming to SE Asia this summer so I might drop by though. Is it a good place for non divers too?

Recommend doing your fundamental wreck training in a tropical setting where inclement cold weather/hypothermia is not a factor, and you can get in as many repetition & practice dives as you can. THEN bring all you knowledge & skills back home and start to apply them (like at the wrecks at Narvik for instance). Also recommend taking a trimix course as well, so you can assess your mental faculties and wreck penetration skills at depth, and whether or not you can perform these same skills on air or nitrox under narcosis, should you decide not to utilize trimix back home.

Manila Philippines is a good airline hub for other warm water trips to other wreck meccas like Truk Lagoon and Palau (see Blue Horizons Travel & Tours).

A very nice dive and tour combination package for non-divers is at Alona Beach.

 

[John_ZAR]

I would recomend doing the IANTD recreational trimix, which will certify you to 50m. If you do do the rec trimix then you may as well do the normoxic course in the near furure as well and if using the same instructor you can then use a twin setup on the rec trimix course which means you can do less time on the normoxic course. Through IANTD you can combine normoxic with wreck intro or cave intro as well.

I think we now are really understanding the benifits of helium in diving and you should really give it serious consideration.

 

[adamtodd]

I think IANTD's "Technical Diver" coarse is basically what TDI does with Deco Procedures/Ext. Range. (?) That's kinda what I gathered on there site.
Have you considered doing their Tech Diver coarse. I would think you would want to have these skills down before a Tech. Wreck Coarse.
Working your way in the Wreck Coarse is a great idea. If you choose your instructor wisely you will learn a lot, regardless if you already have been doing some Wreck Dives.
Good Luck man!