What Info On Diving The SC Lowcountry

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SCDiver:
Hey my sympathies, I went to Laurence Manning up until 10th grade and transferred to Clarendon Hall for my jr and sr years. Woa that was a long time ago, I graduated in 1992. How about u? :wazzup:

I transferred to Porter-Gaud in the 10th grade and graduated from there in 1985. Talk about a long time ago. My maternal grandmother is from and still maintain her house in Summerton, so I know Clarendon Hall well. As a matter of fact, one of my aunts is a teacher there and we go to the big Halloween carnival every year. Boy, this is a small state.
 
SCDiver:
Can you give me some specifics because I got all this in an access database from the SC Dept of Natural Resources. Its a work in progress (arent all websites, lol) so any input from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

Just looking at the first page of wrecks and 20 out of 30 are NC wrecks, some of which are well known NC dive sites (ASHKAHBAD, ATLAS, AUSTRALIA, BEDFORDSHIRE, BEDLOE) and at least one that is pretty close to the VA border (BUARQUE).

Further, there are others that are so far offshore that they are a waste of time to consider on a diving-related shipwreck website (ALAN JACKSON).

Just look at the AWOIS lat/long for each one to see which ones don't belong. There are some wrecks that are dived from both NC and SC ports, so you could poke into NC water a little for the purposes of your website.

Perhaps you should concentrate on the ones that are actively dived so you can provide more useful info on each? As it stands now, all it is now is the AWOIS info reformatted.
 
SCDiver:
Can you give me some specifics because I got all this in an access database from the SC Dept of Natural Resources. Its a work in progress (arent all websites, lol) so any input from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

Yeah, man... Mike's right...

When he's talking "AWOIS," he's talking about NOAA's (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - the recognized leader in maritime info) "Automated Wreck and Obstruction Information." The AWOIS is a database that's constantly updated to reflect what NOAA knows about such things. Since NOAA is federally funded, the AWOIS is supposed to be public information.

By the way, AWOIS can be directly accessed by going here: http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/hsd/awois/contus/downloads/area7(pdf).zip

I have a link to AWOIS on Deep South Divers. Go to http://www.DeepSouthDivers.org and click on "Dive" then "Places to Dive" then "NOAA's..."

The problem with the database is that it's not very specific information. Sometimes something is really there, sometimes the numbers are off. Many of the numbers have been translated from old LORAN numbers, and are off a few tens of feet or even hundreds of feet. Sometimes the "obstruction" is simply a big ol' rock. The bottom line is that AWOIS is a bit misleading because as many times as there is something where they say there's something, there isn't. And of those times when there's really something there, it's rarely anything of interest.

I have some more SC information, though, that can help... Using my "Places to Dive" link above, you'll notice that I also have a link to "South Carolina Shipwrecks" and "Georgia Reefs and Wrecks." There's also some information under "Our Local Dive Sites" such as "SCDNR's Reef Sites," "Coastal Outdoors' Reefs," and "Beaufort Online Reefs." When you take the time and put all of these databases together, taking special note of those sites that are referenced by more than one of those sources, then you've got some confirmation that the site really exists and that there's something interesting going on there.

That is exactly what I've done in the link "Our Own Maps." I've used the program "Topo USA" to map some of the dive sites that appear on a multitude of these sources. Thus, our confidence level is high that these places really exist and that they might be of significant interest.

This summer I will probably take the time to go fully through the information that I have and map more sites than ever. I'd be willing to share those maps if you'd be willing to put some man-hours in to help create them. PM me if you're interested.

Additionally, I'll have my boat in the water, so I can go dive some of the more immediate locations this summer and give a "heads up" on what's really there.

There's more, too... I come from a family of shrimpers... And some of them have been shrimping and fishing for many decades. They've developed charts that they call "hang charts," which are places that they can't trawl for fear of getting their nets hung up. Shrimp nets are pricey... In some cases, a few thousand dollars... So shrimpers here in the Lowcountry have freely shared with their friends places NOT to trawl. Rarely do they know what the "hang" is... They just know not to trawl a certain area. I'll get my hands on some of these "hangs" and match them with my maps... That should give us a more realistic idea than ever of what's out there.

Last thing: I'm doing some work this summer with a well-known treasure hunter from the Keys who's recently moved here locally. He's got some historical data and resources that I've never seen before. When we match "unknowns" with his data, we may be able to make some positive identifications. Things could get really interesting from there.

Now I have to figure out how I'm going to get some of my finds back without getting raped by the State.
 
Heh.

With some of the stuff I've found, it's already been a consideration. :D

Some of the more interesting things I've found:

1. Skeletal remains
2. Cannon
3. Confederate coins
4. Belt buckles and Confederate sabres
5. A missing airplane
6. A pilot's helmet and a significant chunk of an F4 tail
7. Two lost helicopters
8. Possible German submarine
9. Nazi antiaircraft shells
10. China with a swastica
11. A four-pound gold cross with adornments
12. Uniform parts dating to the late 1700's
13. A nearly intact DC-3 with no records - the complete airplane. Interestingly, the landing gear is UP - meaning it wasn't put there on purpose. Props are bent, too...

Let me tell you; we have not begun to scratch the surface. Blackwater is amazingly effective at hiding things. :D

...And heck, that's only in a 30 mi x 30 mi area... And only a part of what I know of so far.

Now if I could just get a hold of a SSS or magno...
 
SeaJay:
Some of the more interesting things I've found:

Your Honor, my client is obviously delerious. He is devestated by the untimely passing of the warm front that was over the coast. He did not find those artifacts, as the Defense's psychiatric team will plainly show...


SeaJay:
Now if I could just get a hold of a SSS or magno...

They've come down a lot! We could split the cost of a small, towed magno and learn the joys of expatriate living!

Seriously though, those finds are fantastic. Hope your lastest project with the "marine recovery specialist" goes well, let me know about anything legal you find. Did I ever tell you about the six kilos I found floating off of Buck Island, USVI?
 
DreadPirate:
Your Honor, my client is obviously delerious. He is devestated by the untimely passing of the warm front that was over the coast. He did not find those artifacts, as the Defense's psychiatric team will plainly show...

Hahhaahahaaaa!

They've come down a lot! We could split the cost of a small, towed magno and learn the joys of expatriate living!

Thought about that quite a bit... I've seen some commercially available stuff in the $1k range... That's affordable, but I have no experience with them - so I couldn't tell you if they're any good or not.

No doubt my relocated buddy might have an input... I'm just not so sure that I want to share everything with him... Know what I mean? :D

Let me know if you're serious about getting involved.

Seriously though, those finds are fantastic. Hope your lastest project with the "marine recovery specialist" goes well, let me know about anything legal you find.

Well, that's part of the problem... The legalities. The State has a habit of trying to take anything I come up with... So I am working on... Well, let's just call them "creative" ideas.

Did I ever tell you about the six kilos I found floating off of Buck Island, USVI?

No flippin' way... Are you serious? That's hilarious...
 
aue-mike:
Just looking at the first page of wrecks and 20 out of 30 are NC wrecks, some of which are well known NC dive sites (ASHKAHBAD, ATLAS, AUSTRALIA, BEDFORDSHIRE, BEDLOE) and at least one that is pretty close to the VA border (BUARQUE).

Further, there are others that are so far offshore that they are a waste of time to consider on a diving-related shipwreck website (ALAN JACKSON).

Just look at the AWOIS lat/long for each one to see which ones don't belong. There are some wrecks that are dived from both NC and SC ports, so you could poke into NC water a little for the purposes of your website.

Perhaps you should concentrate on the ones that are actively dived so you can provide more useful info on each? As it stands now, all it is now is the AWOIS info reformatted.

Ok I got rid of the ones you mentioned, if anyone knows of others that should not be on the list please advise, as I am strictly doing this by myself on my home server, there is no way I can know or dive all of these so by all means provide feedback so I can get this updated. Also, if you want me to add references down towards your area SeaJay, send me all the dive shops contact info and some reputable hotels as well.

Thanks
 
SeaJay:
By the way, AWOIS can be directly accessed by going here: http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/hsd/awois/contus/downloads/area7(pdf).zip

SeaJay this is what I used to build this website table, they sent me the actual access database of all these.
 
SeaJay:
Additionally, I'll have my boat in the water, so I can go dive some of the more immediate locations this summer and give a "heads up" on what's really there.

What kind of boat? Size? Where did you find one? I know you are always looking but I didn't know you found one.

Hey, I'd like to see that collect of finds. You've been holding back....

R
 
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