What Defines a "Tech" Diver

[tursiops]

What you said was:

Not violating TOS. Fact of life, if you had an emergency situation OOA or equipment failure and you have no choice but to surface.
You can survive. I am not saying ok willy nilly just ignore deco obligation.
Can you do it? Yes if you had to. I'd rather take a DCS hit that a death by drowning is all I was pointing out.

My point is that whether you can be treated, or even survive, depends on the amount of deco you are skipping. Sure, you "can" come to the surface, but one should not assume that the consequence of skipping deco is some minor hit that can be ignored. Paralysis, death, are two other documented consequences. Yes, probably better than drowning, but your working makes it seem trivial to skip deco.

The additional clarification by formernuke in the post above is better.

 

[Blackcrusader]

As pointed out above, BSAC felt no need to define the boundaries quite so precisely, and probably other agencies as well. CMAS?

Well when I did my BSAC training the deco dives were called sports diving. How that was different to recreational diving I had no clue as I had only done my PADI OW earlier the same year. I do remember showing up with my BSAC cert at PADI run places in Asia and they are going we do not know this certification but ok you can dive with it. What did you learn in your training. Me Deco dives on air. Oh no that's too dangerous was the usual reply. PADI doesn't allow that.

As soon as you put a regulator in your mouth its all recreational sports technical diving

 

[Blackcrusader]

What you said was:

My point is that whether you can be treated, or even survive, depends on the amount of deco you are skipping. Sure, you "can" come to the surface, but one should not assume that the consequence of skipping deco is some minor hit that can be ignored. Paralysis, death, are two other documented consequences. Yes, probably better than drowning, but your working makes it seem trivial to skip deco.

The additional clarification by formernuke in the post above is better.

My error for assuming all these advanced intelligent SB members would not be like formernuke and have the correct understanding of what I wrote.

Clarification like the post about the 4m depth dive?

 

[Tracy]

Diving is diving. The ‘technical’ term came about to increase the income streams for commercial agencies SSI PADI as examples.

PADI was still shunning Nitrox when MM coined that phrase.

 

[tursiops]

PADI was still shunning Nitrox when MM coined that phrase.

Yeah, Edward3c's history is flawed.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

How about we modify the question?

"What is the difference between recreational diving and technical diving?"

Cross those two words out and it's just diving.

I think we should just go with that, plan your dive appropriately and dive that plan.

The end.

 

[Searcaigh]

I think we should just go with that, plan your dive appropriately and dive that plan.

The end.

Amen

Now shall we lock this thread forever more?

 

[Kay Dee]

Can you dive to any depth, and, as long as you do not exceed your NDL, it is a rec dive? Depth has nothing to do with separating rec from tech diving?

No it has nothing to do with separation really. Just part of the mix. On its own though, nothing, as there is much more involved in 'tech diving' than depth.

The following may be quoted it elsewhere in this thread, but here is what it meant when the phrase originated, by the man who coined the phrase;

>Back in the late 1980s and early ’90s, technical diving was distinct from recreational diving. At the time aquaCORPS (i.e. M2 / Michael Menduno, the man who coined the phrase) offered this definition: “Technical diving is a discipline that uses special methods, equipment, training and skills to improve underwater safety and performance, enabling divers to explore a wide range of underwater environments and perform tasks beyond the range of recreational diving. This typically involves ‘extended-range’ exposures outside the recreational envelope (no-stop dives in the 0-40m range) and is usually conducted in an ‘overhead environment’ of a wreck, cave or decompression ceiling where the diver cannot freely ascend to the surface.”<

However, since the later part of the naughtie's / early 2000's it has been corrupted by the plethora of courses 'offered' (some might say 'pushed' even) by the instructor agencies to make you a 'tech diver'. And a plethora of wannabe tech divers also.

 

[Celt]

Here's a difference between technical and recreational diver: The tech diver knows the adage "Any diver can call any dive at any time for any reason without it being questioned." The tech diver would call that dive before reaching the site.

My point is in real life its never black and white.

 

[Kay Dee]

It never becomes a tech dive because there's no such thing, the circumstances of a dive can change during the dive.

Bullsh**. Not even close. Your scenario just becomes a more complicated dive, not a tech dive. Who are you trying to kid? Wannebe tech divers?