What Defines a "Tech" Diver

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Re the origins and motivations, Wikipedia says this:

Origin​

The popular use of the term technical diving can be traced back to the cover story of the first issue of "aquaCorps" magazine (1991 through 1995), in early 1990, titled call it "High-Tech" Diving by Bill Hamilton, describing the current state of recreational diving beyond the generally accepted limits, such as, deep, decompression and mixed gas diving. By mid-1991, the magazine was using the term technical diving, as an analogy with the established term technical (rock) climbing.  More recently, recognising that the term was already in use by Royal Navy for rebreather diving, Hamilton redefined technical diving as diving with more than one breathing gas or with a rebreather. Richard Pyle (1999) defined a technical diver as "anyone who routinely conducts dives with staged stops during an ascent as suggested by a given decompression algorithm". The term technical diving was also used in the US as far back as 1977 by the California Advisory Committee on Scientific and Technical Diving (CACSTD), to distinguish more complex modes of recreational diving from scientific diving for regulatory purposes.  In the US the Occupational Safety and Health Administration categorises diving which is not occupational as recreational diving for purposes of exemption from regulation.  This is also the case in some other countries, including South Africa.

Technical diving emerged in between the mid-1980s to the mid-to-late-1990s, and much of the history of its development was recorded in "aquaCorps, The Journal for Technical Diving" (1990-1996), started by Michael Menduno to provide a forum for these aspects of diving that most recreational diving magazines of the time refused to cover.

At the time, amateur scuba divers were exploring the physiological limits of air diving while exploring the diving environment, and looked for ways to extend those limits and for way to extend breathing gas supplies as they went deeper and stayed down longer. The military and commercial-diving communities had large budgets, extensive infrastructure and controlled diving operations, but the amateur diving community had a more trial and error approach to the use of mixed gas and rebreathers. Consequently a relatively large number of fatal incidents occurred during the early years, before a reasonably reliable set of operating procedures and standards began to emerge, making the movement somewhat controversial, both with the mainstream diving establishment, and between sectors of the technical diving community.[

While the motivation to extend the depth and duration range by military and commercial divers was mainly driven by operational needs to get the job done, the motivation to extend recreational diving depth and endurance range was more driven by the urge to explore otherwise inaccessible places, which could not at the time be reached by any other means.

The urge to go where no one has gone before has always been a driving force for explorers, and the 1980s was a time of intense exploration by the cave-diving community, some of whom were doing relatively long air dives in the 60-125 m depth range, and doing decompression on oxygen. The details of many of these dives were not disclosed by the divers as these dives were considered experimental and dangerous, not for the ordinary person, but necessary to extend the frontiers of exploration, and there were no consensus guidelines for scuba diving beyond 40 m.
 
My point is that a tech dive MUST be planned and have the necessary redundancy.

And a deep dive to NDL limit at 130' doesn't? Or shouldn't?
(and I'd argue jumping in with two Shearwater dive comps will get you a long way, if that is how you want to roll.)

For an NDL dive to 130 ft, some redundant gas is probably more important than a 2nd computer. If the first one dies, you are still within NDL, so you ascend. It is like your SPG failing. No biggie. But if your 1st stage fails, or your neck o-ring blows, you'd really like to have some redundant gas. So, for your planned NDL dive, the extra gas is very nice.....but not essential. In contrast, a non-NDL -- i.e., deco -- dive means you cannot just go the surface....you plan to have a ceiling. You NEED the 2nd computer; you NEED the extra gas. That's a tech dive. And you've planned it all out, with your contingencies in mind, so if something goes sideways, it is not an emergency, it is an annoyance. That's tech diving.
You mentioned required planning as somehow unique to tech diving.

I argue you should also do that for deep dives, so not unique.

And, My point was that you could easily do a full tech dive without preplanning. Having the gasses you carry entered into a top of the line computer and jumping in with it would get you a long long way into technical diving. Two dive comps for the required redundancy there.
 
You mentioned required planning as somehow unique to tech diving.
No, I did not say unique. I said required.
I argue you should also do that for deep dives.
Go right ahead.
And, My point was that you could easily do a full tech dive without preplanning. Having the gasses you carry entered into a top of the line computer and jumping in with it would get you a long long way into technical diving. Two dive comps for the required redundancy there.
Nonsense. Your approach easily allows you to run out of gas. It is NOT all about deco needs, but rather very much about what gas the deco requires.
 
Unique in being required?
LOL. You are trying much too hard to put words in my mouth so you can win an argument that is silly prima facia.
 
OK. So, what does the phrase mean to you?
As I wrote, when I use a term that is used within a certain community, I endeavor to use it as it is understood within that community. I do not make my own definitions, because that would interfere with effective communication.

I just Googled "Technical Diving" and got a long list of sites defining the phrase. I skimmed them, and they are all pretty similar. There are some minor differences. Read through a few of them, and you will have a general idea of what the scuba diving community believes the phrase means. If that is what the general scuba diving community believes the term means, then that is what I believe.

As I said earlier, the dictionaries and encyclopedia people carefully survey the way language is used and then report on it. They publish definitions based on how they see a word or phrase is used. Many people misunderstand this, thinking that something like God resides in a dictionary or encyclopedia and then tells us how to use a word or phrase. The opposite is true. They are reporters, telling us how a word or phrase is used so we understand it when we see it.

Here is the Wikipedia article on it. It reports how the phrase is used. Read through the article with something of a clear mind and you will see what it means to the general community. That is how I use the term, and I don't sweat the minor differences.
 
Bordering on violating the TOS, i.e., providing unsafe advice on SB.

it is a tough call....there's lots of competition....

Not violating TOS. Fact of life, if you had an emergency situation OOA or equipment failure and you have no choice but to surface.
You can survive. I am not saying ok willy nilly just ignore deco obligation.
Can you do it? Yes if you had to. I'd rather take a DCS hit that a death by drowning is all I was pointing out.
 
A dive never just becomes a tech dive. Tech dives are planned pre dive.

So are recreational dives.
 
How is his statement coming anywhere close to giving dangerous advice.

The definition of can is the ability to. If there is no physical overhead you can come straight to the surface. However you should NEVER do so because of the risk of DCS especially if you have virtual overhead due to going into deco.

The key words are can and should.

Someone who understands what I wrote. Thank you.
 

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