mmatthias
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I am curious if you know how these out of air situations came about?
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Well that was not my experience when I did work as DM/instructor in holidays resorts for 5 years.Dive guides don't make a dive safe
Dive guides - DMs and instructors - are not gods. The sad reality is that they are mostly underpaid, often under-skilled hospitality workers who depend on tips and need to work 6+ days a week. They cannot afford to refuse poor divers or to not dive because they are not dive-fit that day. Dive guides don't "take" you on swimthroughs or deeper than your training because you looked good and experienced underwater, they do it because they decided that you will more likely than not survive the dive and give them a decent tip.
There are exceptions to any rule. I had in mind the standard liveaboard in Egypt. Also, I doubt that you would advocate for divers to depend on the average DM/instructor to be so well trained and prepared as you were .Well that was not my experience when I did work as DM/instructor in holidays resorts for 5 years.
First, we were paid decently by the tour operator (Club Vacanze, in my case)
Second, NO TIPS EVER. It had been highly offensive to tip me or my wife.
Third, we operated under strict safety protocols (which indeed included a max depth of 50m and deco stops at 6 and 3m).
Fourth, OOA accidents were frequent, as some customers are air hogs. We were equipped and trained for this (large tank, 2 complete regs with 3 second stages, two of them with long hose dedicated to be donated - and of course additional tanks hanging at the deco bar under the boat).
FIFTH: we were Gods! Or, at least, customers considered us a such, as we were part of the "staff", wearing our colorful uniforms and taking care of them. But this is hard to understand, not having seen how the social interaction was in those holidays villages in the eighties. We were really capable to do everything to our customers! Making them jumping out of the window, if we wanted...
Most serious one was the diver who spent the entire first dive of the trip (after the check-out dive) playing with his new camera. As he tried to pull the last breath from his tank, the DM saw him with his wide, panicked eyes and gave the diver his octopus (buddy had long since left him because of his fixation on his new toy). The diver admitted back on deck that he had not looked at his SPG during the dive.I am curious if you know how these out of air situations came about?
That was the standard at the time in any similar organization: Club Med, Francorosso,, Alpitour, Club Vacanze, etc...There are exceptions to any rule. I had in mind the standard liveaboard in Egypt. Also, I doubt that you would advocate for divers to depend on the average DM/instructor to be so well trained and prepared as you were .
Thanks for this info! I am a new diver- 80 dives and certified less than 2 years. I am always trying to learn. The more I learn the less I worry since it seems the vast majority of accidents are avoidable by following what we learned in our training. My husband and I always do a buddy check and it surprises me how few people appear to do that.Most serious one was the diver who spent the entire first dive of the trip (after the check-out dive) playing with his new camera. As he tried to pull the last breath from his tank, the DM saw him with his wide, panicked eyes and gave the diver his octopus (buddy had long since left him because of his fixation on his new toy). The diver admitted back on deck that he had not looked at his SPG during the dive.
The other two incidents were more "extremely low on air"; one was at 300 psi at 90 feet and the other was at 400 psi at around 70-80 feet. In both cases they talked after the dive of just following the group and assuming that everything was fine from an air standpoint and a nitrogen loading standpoint. Neither factored in their own air consumption by simply looking at their SPG. Going forward they were much better monitoring both psi remaining and nitrogen loading. As an instructor, these experiences created great teaching discussions. First, don't play with new toys until you are very comfortable with your abilities and, even then, don't let the toy distract you from your primary concern, air and nitrogen status. Also, just because all your friends jumped off a cliff, would you? In other words, what the group is or is not doing is not as important as how you are doing. Make sure you are always ok, then pay attention to the group so you don't get separated and you get to see the cool stuff they might see.
In short, all three were operator error in a big way.