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dori fish

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Hi Everybody,
I am looking for a more streamlined rig and starting to think about computers, I have been looking at the HelO2, vyper air, vr3, all I believe AI. Any other suggestions are welcome.

Please don't comment on how these are trimix capable, I know this and understand that.

Thank You in advance
 
The vyper is not trimix capable, and the VR3 is not air integrated. You should also consider the Pursuit, Nitek X, X1, VRx, etc...


Eric Fattah
Liquivision Products
 
I know the vyper isn't a trimix computer but what do people who own the vr3 compared to the suunto HelO2 think about them?
Also I looked at the vrx and nitek x and they are, correct me if I am wrong bigger and boxier, which I find annoying, plus will they fit over a drysuit
 
I would go with the Liquidvision. You couldn't go wrong. You can see the display from 10' away underwater. If I'm not mistaken, they will soon be AI....? either way, an awesome comp.
 
I have looked at both the vr3 and liquidvision x1. I don't understand the upgradable pin on the vr3, and for lets say nitrox up to 100% with decompression no where near the near future, what do you all suggest?
 
I have looked at both the vr3 and liquidvision x1. I don't understand the upgradable pin on the vr3, and for lets say nitrox up to 100% with decompression no where near the near future, what do you all suggest?

There's no point in considering nitrox up to 100% until you're ready for deco diving, so for the time being, pick out a recreational computer that you like. I've used the Oceanic VEO 250 and the Aladin Tec 2G. I personally don't see any point in AI, but that debate is for another place.

As for the upgradable feature on the VR3, it just means that all features are present on the VR3 when you buy it, but you only have to pay for what you want, so you purchase the appropriate pin to unlock them. It's just easier for the manufacturer to design the hardware and software that way.

The X1 is my favorite mixed gas computer, both for the display, and the fact that you can choose the software you want to run on it, either Buhlmann or a true bubble model.
 
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The liquivision X1 is the most streamlined computer. It is also quite easy to use and has a nifty digital compass, so that's one additional instrument you can get off your arm or wing.

I also own two VR3s and have had mixed results with them. One of them had to go back to the factory (in England) four times in about 18 months. The last trip back seems to have done the trick. I do know of others who have had similar problems --apparently it was some issue with a batch of depth transducers.

One big difference between the X1 and VR3 is power. I like the X1 because it is so easy to read, small, lightweight and elegant. Just remember, the X1 has to be plugged into a wall outlet for recharging. It has an internal battery, which is great but also requires the additional step of making sure you grab it prior to each dive. That should not be a big deal, but it is a consideration you need to add to your dive preparations.


The VR3s use 3.6 Volt AA batteries (which can be a little difficult to find, especially in remote locations) so you can just leave them in your dive gear.
If you are buying a first time computer, the X1 really is something and it is what I would choose. Pesonally, I prefer the X1's internal battery which I am told is rated to last 10 years.

Overally, I prefer the X1 over all the other computers you mentioned. It is easy to master, no moving parts to break, pretty much indestructable, smaller, lightweight and by far the easiest computer to read.

Jeff
 
LIQUID VISION. I have NO vested interest in the Co. I use a UWATEC Galileo SOL and a UWATEC Bottom Timer. I have friends that only use Liquid Visions... I will buy two! They ARE BADASS!!! You should look to the future. IF you are looking forward to TECH....
 
This thread had some of the best comments I have seen yet. There wasn't a lot of macho bullsh*t nor too much feelings. Thanks to all who contributed. I dont know if "dori fish" picked a computer that is right but I am getting closer. I looked at the Liq X1 and WOW it is nice but I think way more than what I need for the amount of diving I can squeeze in a year. I originally was looking at the HS Explorer but now I think the VR3 might be a good fit for my trimiz/tech diving and the minimal budget I have for gear this year.
 
Dori: It does not look like you dive a lot (25-49 dives over a 2 year period). With that being said, you work with computers and I assume you are a gadget fan. Generally I would not suggest a VR3/X for the type of diving you do, but will do as it is a great gadget and the bench mark in dive computers. Please read the manual at least twice!! The Helo2 is also great, easier to use that VR3/X and is a lot smaller too. I could also suggest a D9 in full titanium, great DC and can also be used as dress watch. It does not matter with which you go with, they are all great! Enjoy your toy when you get it.
 
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