VIP mandated tank destruction ??

[O-ring]

...we don't want to speculate and needlessly cause harm to the reputation of the innocent.

So until we hear specifically from William let's leave off googling around

I bet they would have wondered why the heck they were getting all these calls about their VIP policies though

 

[Uncle Pug]

I don't care if you call them.


William.... answer specifically.... did you sign a waiver stating that your tank could be destroyed if it fail vip or hydro?

 

[mer]

Reading this thread really scared me... I've just bought steel tanks and didn't realize how you can get screwed.
I guess not I'm just a bit more enlightened.
:whoa:

So how do you find out where/who the hydro shops in the area are? I think my LDS is decent, but now I'm paranoid.

William - what part of the country do you live in?

 

[roakey]

UP's right we really have to know if there was a waiver. If there wasn't a waiver the fact that it passed the hydo VCI is probably enough to win in small claims court.

mer,

Look in the yellow pages under fire extinguisher service, they're the ones that usually have the hydro facilities. And/or call some of the local welding outfits and ask where they get their cylinders hydroed.

There are two cases where I would ABSOLUTELY deal with the hydro facility directly, and that the case where I have + rated cylinders or any PST cylinder (which requires "rounding out" before the test).

Roak

 

[Jarhead]

roakey once bubbled...
"rounding out"

I admit my ignorance. Tell us about "rounding out".

 

[chepar]

GearHead once bubbled...
The value of a cylinder would put this in small claims court regardless, meaning that the only cost you would incur is your time in gathering evidence and going to court. And as drizzt117 suggested, if you do part 1 and confront Mr. Copeland, then part 2 will probably never need to happen. Good luck. Rick

Small claims court is geared to be "user friendly", without the need for attorneys. There will probably be a small filing fee for your Complaint and you have to effect service on Mr. Copeland, but the process and paperwork is geared for the individual to navigate without needing to involve lawyers. Any questions can most likely be answered by the clerk at the court or by very long and detailed information numbers you can call.

You'll get a hearing date, and you show up and present your case - not unlike Judge Judy, but without all the histronics and drama, usually. The best thing to do is gather your evidence, make sure your ducks are in a row and present it in a clear and concise manner. However, once Mr. Copeland receives notice of the claim, he may discover his time away from his shop is more valuable than the cost to get you a new tank. Good luck.

 

[mer]

Thanks for the advice. I do have + rate tanks (supposedly renewable for life of the tank). <whimper> But I thought my LDS was almost in that "knowledgeable" category.

roakey once bubbled...
Look in the yellow pages under fire extinguisher service, they're the ones that usually have the hydro facilities. And/or call some of the local welding outfits and ask where they get their cylinders hydroed.

There are two cases where I would ABSOLUTELY deal with the hydro facility directly, and that the case where I have + rated cylinders or any PST cylinder (which requires "rounding out" before the test).

Roak

 

[roakey]

Jarhead once bubbled...
I admit my ignorance. Tell us about "rounding out".

PST cylinders must be brought up to *almost* test pressure, then the pressure released, THEN the hydro test can me performed. The hot dip galvanizing process for some reason makes this necessary in order to not get "false negatives" on the hydro test. See technical bulletin D100 on this page:

http://www.pstscuba.com/tech.htm

I always print this out, highlight it and tape it to my PST cylinders when I bring them in for testing.

Roak

 

[Uncle Pug]

mer once bubbled...
But I thought my LDS was almost in that "knowledgeable" category.

They might be.... you need to do your homework and find out. Actually not all DOT facilities (fire extinguisher shops for example) are up to speed on how to + rate cylinders.

The DOT shop that I use for some hydros doesn't do + but a facility in Seattle has it figured out. The LDS doesn't do + either.

The best bet is to get the disposition of failed cylinders in writing ahead of time.... and do not sign a wavier.... no matter how much you trust the shop.

 

[roakey]

chepar once bubbled...
The best thing to do is gather your evidence, make sure your ducks are in a row...

Once we hear one way or another on the waiver I'll go into a few ducks that should be easily lined up to make the case almost open-and-shut.

Roak