Thinking about running doubles

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Like Graeme mentioned slinging an AL80 stage could be a better option, you will get the same amount of gas as in doubles , redundancy and it's going to be much cheaper

The skills of handling the stage will not be wasted in the future when you switch to the double tanks.
 
SMALL old time doubles look and feel real great and don't weigh 50 million kilo's, like all that tech stuff and goes to similar places sort of.
The Ranger does not have a backplate, like exposed back plate wing set ups that the fancy BP/W people use. The rear section is made from a stitched reinforced cross hatch of strong 2 inch nylon webbing and fabric that accomodates singles with two cam bands or doubles utilising tank band bolts through the pak with small rectangular stainless plates acting as washers and wingnuts.
I have never chomped out any suits with this system.
Will you be cool enough without a shiny plate?
 
When your ear heals, find someone who owns a set of small doubles, maybe AL80s or LP72s, to let you take them for a dive. Even a pool dive would be very helpful. There's definitely an adjustment period in terms of trim and buoyancy control. If all you have is one reg set, either borrow a doubles reg set (two 1st stages, each with one 2nd stage) or for a pool dive on manifolded doubles, just use your set on the right post, leave the left post closed, and the isolator open. Just wait for the flames on that suggestion! Remember, this is just a pool dive to get used to the balance/trim of doubles.

Working the valves is easy, in fact way easier IMO than reaching the valve on a single tank. You do have to learn the system, keeping clear about which post controls what device, but actually manipulating the valves is no problem. I really think some people over dramatize the valve skills. Once you get into overhead and other potentially dangerous scenarios, all sorts of skills become more important and demanding.

Anyhow, that will introduce you into doubles without spending a fortune. You really should think about why you want to use them, though. I use mine in very shallow spring diving frequently, for the sole reason of practicing trim and buoyancy with them for future cave diving. In terms of increasing bottom time on OW, NDL dives, a larger single tank is probably a better option, certainly less expensive.
 
As far as what you need to use doubles on a Ranger, consult the owners manual....If you dont have one it can be downloaded from Zeagles webpage i believe. for the doulbes themselves....you need two tanks, a set of bands, a manifold and another first stage reg... you will only run 1 second stage off each first stage.
 
Hey thanks alot guys i think ill just sling the extra tank because that would be good pratice plus fufill the need for the extra air
 
That is definitely a good starting place. Make sure you have attachment points you can reach while under water and are able to manipulate the valve with one hand. Also, good idea to get nice snaps that make it easy to attach the stage rig. I recomend snaps like this.... 114SS
I also recomend rigging it like this...
DIR-diver.com - Stagebottle rigging
It is easy to set up, for a very low cost.

Don't forget to monitor NDL's even closer with your increased gas capacity!
 
Doubles rule. However, if you haven't taken the time to research and be able to answer your own questions, you are not ready for them. I didn't make the switch until around 200 dives and had been around others who regularly dive doubles a lot of that time. Doubles certainly have their advantages, but a few extra minutes at 60' is not worth all the extra dough. For a long time, i dove 119's as single tanks. That gave me the extra bottom time that I wanted. Eventually, I took my 119's and banded them together. Now, I have all the bottom time i could ask for. It is more important now than ever before to closely monitor NDL's, because they can sneak up very quickly.

Another solution is to start to carry a stage bottle. a slung al80 is neutral when empty and will double your gas supply. You will just need a stage strap and another reg setup for a stage.

I agree. I love doubles, even for piddly little dives. But I don't think the OP is quite ready for them.

I wouldn't recommend a stage either. Just stick with single tank.
 
I wouldn't run with doubles. They are usually heavy!
 
I have some twin 45's/2250psi wking pressure on ebay for sale, 90 cuft at 2475psi........or you can push a bit for 95 or 100 cuft if you so mind...........$200, you will need a new hydro and vip, as it ran out last jan or feb, forget which.....these would suit you for 60-90 foot dives.........
 
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