Thermal Protection thread

[sibermike7]

I bought a used dry suit that appeared to be in good condition. Well on a working dive off the west coast in 48 or 50 deg water I found out the cuff seams were dry rotted out. Filled up both arms, but my Viking fleece lined under garment with polertech underwear keept me warm for the full 45 min. dive. Sold that suit to some poor sucker in the mid west!

Hmmm. When did you sell it? Was it a Bare 7mm neoprene?
I had my suit originally shipped to Indiana! :doh2:
I hope that you told the poor sucker that it was dry-rotted!!

 

[muddiver]

No, I'm a Viking guy, no neoprene bags here.

I actually spent the ransome and had it returned from the repair shop patched up. I'm not a total d**k.

 

[sibermike7]

No, I'm a Viking guy, no neoprene bags here.

I actually spent the ransome and had it returned from the repair shop patched up. I'm not a total d**k.

Glad it weren't sic you!
I was going to have to get on the Semper Fi stuff and all ...
Have a great Christmas!

 

[scubashawn123]

Here is the information I recieved from DAN on this subject of cold water diving.

There are 3 great reads but too big to put on the board:

1. Cold Water Diving pdf
2. Hypothermia and diving (word doc by Dr. Bookspan)
3. Cold stress complicates Decompression sickness


Not too large to email. If you want me to email them to you please send me an email request to shawntv@austin.rr.com and I will forward them specifically to you.

The note from DAN went as follows:

Dear Shawn,

Thank you for your e-mail and membership support. There is a great deal of information regarding cold water diving. I am attaching the information DAN has available regarding this topic. The greatest resource is going to be the US Navy Dive Manual. I am including a link to the web site where you can download the most recent version. If we can be any further assistance do not hesitate to contact DAN.



Military Medicine | Naval Medicine | Navy Medicine | Humanitarian Medicine - Virtual Naval Hospital: A digital library of naval medicine and military medicine and humanitarian medicine


(located in the heading Undersea Medicine)



Divers Alert Network



Marty McCafferty, EMT-P DMT-A

DAN, Medical Information Specialist


______________________________________________________________________

I found this to be very helpful on the subject and a lot of depth in information provided by DAN. If you need to know more about DAN go to DAN Divers Alert Network

a great diving resource for all of us.





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[ZzzKing]

That's very interesting that DAN would reference the Navy Dive Manual as the greatest resource. I haven't read that section in a couple of years so maybe it's time for a refresher.

 

[RumBum]

Under Armour sells both COLD gear and HEAT gear. The HEAT gear is designed to help you stay cool, for example in the summer when you're running or cycling. For diving purposes look for their line of COLD GEAR. I have some and it is wonderful; I wear it under my dry suit. I believe it would work well under a wetsuit also. Cabella's sells some UA but has a very limited selection.
Under Armour Official Site. Free Shipping Available on All Sports Apparel, Footwear, and Accessories

 

[scubashawn123]

Under Armour sells both COLD gear and HEAT gear. The HEAT gear is designed to help you stay cool, for example in the summer when you're running or cycling. For diving purposes look for their line of COLD GEAR. I have some and it is wonderful; I wear it under my dry suit. I believe it would work well under a wetsuit also. Cabella's sells some UA but has a very limited selection.
Under Armour Official Site. Free Shipping Available on All Sports Apparel, Footwear, and Accessories

Thanks for the tip, I am checking out their website. I feel warm diving is happy diving in cold weather.



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[ZzzKing]

Nike has similar stuff in heavy weight. Costs about the same. $50/ top or bottom. Toasty. I have some merino long underwear that is really warm as well. Either or both go under a Bare CF200 or some such number jumpsuit.

For my tootsies I have some cheap*ss sheer nylon socks that go under either smartwool or merino socks.

Gloveliners are sheer Patagonias under cheap*ss polypropylene under smurf gloves.

I'm good down to the low 40's without too much discomfort. I could go lower but I've never had to. I feel that when you need power tools to get into the water, it's probably time to find something else to do for a few weeks.

 

[scubashawn123]

Nike has similar stuff in heavy weight. Costs about the same. $50/ top or bottom. Toasty. I have some merino long underwear that is really warm as well. Either or both go under a Bare CF200 or some such number jumpsuit.

For my tootsies I have some cheap*ss sheer nylon socks that go under either smartwool or merino socks.

Gloveliners are sheer Patagonias under cheap*ss polypropylene under smurf gloves.

I'm good down to the low 40's without too much discomfort. I could go lower but I've never had to. I feel that when you need power tools to get into the water, it's probably time to find something else to do for a few weeks.

Great tip, I will check it out.

I have been in Ice down to 34 degree water with layers and my fleece and exothermal II jumpsuit, but let me share I was not warm..............colddddddddddddddd

So thinking about adding to the bag of dive tricks this winter with this crazy weather in Austin. Up and down roller coaster with wind.





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[imasinker]

Well laugh all ya want....

I bought all my gear and then a Bare HD Tech Dry and along with everything else and I was running low on funds. I went to WalMart and bought a pair of fleece track pants and fleece pull over with a zip neck. I dove all summer with that over shorts and was reall warm. I had intentions on getting some Northen Elements or the New SUB XERO undies. I still havent got them as of yet. I work outside all year round and have adapted well to colder temperatures. I still use them now over top of whatever I am wearing for the day. Layers do help to keep you warmer and I am not padded down. Thick Kodiac wool work socks also keep my feet warm. I use drygloves with liners. I have dove the coldest for me at 33 C and felt good. Had to make a dive short when I had a leak in my glove and my fingers got numb, but new gloves and I am all set.