The real story of the FONATUR Marina

[cvchief]

I am too lazy to go back and read the beginning to see if it is there. I *think* the owners group signed a contract with a corporation, but that corporation no longer exists and another corporation took its place, so can the owners force the new corp to live up to the old corp's agreement or will they get away with shafting the owners. I am not sure what all the original contract included.

I am sure someone will correct me but that is the general idea.

Figure it took them how many years to open AFTER it was built and filled with water? I expect they will have an actual parking lot in maybe another 4 and in 8 years, a place to buy beer!!

 

[Skittl1321]

or not?


How did the old marina work, was it much more efficient than the new one? Never seen either of them in person. Everyone has always picked my lazy butt up at a nice comfy resort dock.

Except for Dave, I haven't read anything positive about the new marina from any of the ops I follow. I've seen a lot of negative on facebook.

The old marina without a doubt had problems, like Jefe said- some ops didn't even have slips, and as Dave said, the junk boats pulling up so close to yours meant that your boat was going to get scuffed and need constant paint and repair. But from what I can tell, ops were still happier with how they could load their boats and serve their customers.

The fact that they are having to overnight in the new marina, then drive over to the old one to get stuff onto their boats seems ridiculous.

The photos I've seen show no parking at all. There are lines of mopeds along the side of the road, but where are divers parking? Most come in rental cars, not mopeds, don't they?

 

[Ron Lee]

Except for Dave, I haven't read anything positive about the new marina from any of the ops I follow. I've seen a lot of negative on facebook.

The old marina without a doubt had problems, like Jefe said- some ops didn't even have slips, and as Dave said, the junk boats pulling up so close to yours meant that your boat was going to get scuffed and need constant paint and repair. But from what I can tell, ops were still happier with how they could load their boats and serve their customers.

The fact that they are having to overnight in the new marina, then drive over to the old one to get stuff onto their boats seems ridiculous.

The photos I've seen show no parking at all. There are lines of mopeds along the side of the road, but where are divers parking? Most come in rental cars, not mopeds, don't they?

Maybe they use a taxi. If there were problems in the Caleta other than overcrowding, those issues should have been identified and resolved if possible in the new marina. If you create a huge new problem by not having easy loading/unloading of tanks and dive gear, then what you have is a major failure.

 

[cvchief]

Maybe they use a taxi. If there were problems in the Caleta other than overcrowding, those issues should have been identified and resolved if possible in the new marina. If you create a huge new problem by not having easy loading/unloading of tanks and dive gear, then what you have is a major failure.

Divers and gear are being picked up in old Caleta I understand. Imagine how large and how much people would have to pay for slips with the Ron Lee Marina? You WOULD need to leave money bags on the dock The new marina only has a parallel extensions every so many slips. The rest only touch at the back of the boat. So we would need to widen the piers to say 20 feet wide to accommodate the truck traffic of tanks and gear. Then add say an 8 foot extension pier extension between every other boat since we CAN"T move a boat to load it. Really have to build up the piers to handle the weight of truck traffic. Probably should add a dry dock, so.... How about with start with something like this:

 

[mmmbelows]

The fact that they are having to overnight in the new marina, then drive over to the old one to get stuff onto their boats seems ridiculous.

The photos I've seen show no parking at all. There are lines of mopeds along the side of the road, but where are divers parking? Most come in rental cars, not mopeds, don't they?

I think all of that stuff is just temporary for now, it's Mexico you know... things work themselves out s l o w l y...

I'd think they will eventually get around to getting their parking worked out as the rest of their funding comes in. In Mexico it seems any public works projects take a long long time to complete as the funding is provided in stages and politics and who was in office at the time and who is in office later as the project matures all has an effect on dragging everything out. But from the pictures it looks like they have a great start!

 

[Dave Dillehay]

For the record, we do not load tanks or divers in the Marina. We load our boats at the downtown (formerly Aldora owned) pier and do not require our divers to go to the Marina. For us the big advantage in the new marina is that we have fresh water to keep our boats clean and electricity as well. All of our boats are side by side and no junk boat is going to beat them up. Parking will be a problem if they don't do something quickly.

Dave Dillehay
Aldora Divers

 

[Ron Lee]

Divers and gear are being picked up in old Caleta I understand. Imagine how large and how much people would have to pay for slips with the Ron Lee Marina? You WOULD need to leave money bags on the dock The new marina only has a parallel extensions every so many slips. The rest only touch at the back of the boat. So we would need to widen the piers to say 20 feet wide to accommodate the truck traffic of tanks and gear. Then add say an 8 foot extension pier extension between every other boat since we CAN"T move a boat to load it. Really have to build up the piers to handle the weight of truck traffic. Probably should add a dry dock, so.... How about with start with something like this:

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Of course you have a distorted view of reality. If you cannot devise a method to facilitate loading and unloading of tanks and dive gear, that is your issue. I just came up with one as I read your post.

Frankly, I cannot understand your vehement rejection of doing things better.

 

[ggunn]

Of course you have a distorted view of reality. If you cannot devise a method to facilitate loading and unloading of tanks and dive gear, that is your issue. I just came up with one as I read your post.

Frankly, I cannot understand your vehement rejection of doing things better.

What I think you do not understand is cvchief's sense of humor, such as it is.

 

[Ron Lee]

What I think you do not understand is cvchief's sense of humor, such as it is.

Why has he bashed my comments about tanks three times. I see no humor in that. The last one borders on a personal attack.

 

[cvchief]

What I think you do not understand is cvchief's sense of humor, such as it is.

We do what we can with what we were given.

Why has he bashed my comments about tanks three times. I see no humor in that. The last one borders on a personal attack.

For the record if you check, I believe I bashed your tank comment more than three times, because you made that same tank comments MANY more than three times.

Certainly don't take it personally, I would happily let you buy me a beer so we can get over this. You keep grinding that axe and I will try to let a couple go without comment.

However, I did just take a tour of Google images and looked at various marinas that I figure dive boats operate out of and ALOT of them look the same with relatively narrow piers, i.e. no truck access to the boat.

I was going to post a few, but you are tiring me out Ron...

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For the record, we do not load tanks or divers in the Marina.

Sorry I should have qualified that. You do have that special air. Anytime I eat at CM, I linger in the street to catch a whiff of that magic. Sallye tells me that is what keeps her looking 29.