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[Genesis]

I don't teach classes but I do have a standing offer that anyone who would like to drink a beer with me at my home is welcome to drop by any time, and I might happen (just by coincidence, ya know - I'm anal about gear maintenance) be stripping one of my regs on the kitchen table

 

[medical1]

I don't teach classes but I do have a standing offer that anyone who would like to drink a beer with me at my home is welcome to drop by any time, and I might happen (just by coincidence, ya know - I'm anal about gear maintenance) be stripping one of my regs on the kitchen table

Got a real nice table in the Tampabay area and some cold beer waiting for you I even have a big hammer and a vice. Thats all you need to overhaul a regulator - right? Going to DEMA in TX this year so I may just stop by for some "FREE" air from your compressor on the way............

Can't you just sell me a book?

 

[Genesis]

A big hammer and a vise eh?

Oh oh...... Darwin be a 'knockin!

 

[DeepScuba]

NE:

That guys just might DESERVE to die

heheheh

But this does bring me to another point. With even an elementary going over after threading in the hose (Or even an overhaul), you're going to notice anything that has gone wrong well before you ever dive the thing.

Especially when there's parts left over

tehe

 

[DivesWithTurtles]

DS is, like LP, a "real" LDS. I was in their store in Orlando last week.

I've ordered from both and at least in their Orlando store they actually have employees who are real DIVERS and who know something about diving.

Are you sure you mean Diver's Supply and not Diver's Direct. I don't think DS has a store in Orlando. DD does.

BTW, I've dealt with all three, and have had excellent experiences with all. LP upgraded my shipping type (without charge) when they didn't have to. DS did a color change at my request (on an EBay purchase) when they didn't have to. And DD has provided mail order type prices with local (to me) storefront service. I've had good quick service from Scuba Toys, too.

I still try to give my favorite LDS the nod in cases where they carry what I want. And I have also given plenty of business to (numerous) other LDSs. (Lots and lots of LDSs around Orlando. )

Ya know, now that I think about it, I buy way too much scuba junk.

-=[Gabe]=-

 

[Genesis]

It may be DD..... I get 'em confused sometimes... The store is on International Drive....

 

[medical1]

Divers Direct has actual stores & sells on line. They just don't do NITROX fills :-(

 

[DivesWithTurtles]

It may be DD..... I get 'em confused sometimes... The store is on International Drive....

Yep, that's Diver's Direct, formally Diver's Outlet. Name changed about three years ago.

-=[Gabe]=-

 

[MikeFerrara]

“The fact that you think you'll have such an easy time holding them responsible is laughable.”

Do you own a Dive Shop by chance? <jk>

I was just trying to point out the contradictory issue here; maybe I didn&#8217;t do a very good job explaining it. I&#8217;ll try again; it&#8217;s kind of like having your cake and eating it to. Like Ford with the Pinto, the fact that someone had to hit you from behind didn&#8217;t really matter because the design of the car was such that it would explode&#8230;

But we don&#8217;t have to worry about this stuff the designs out there are very safe and very simple. Other than maybe having a cut O-ring out of the box, I wouldn&#8217;t think there is a lot that can get through the QA control.

Truva

No I don't own a shop and I don't care where you folks buy your stuff.

But...while I'm not happy with the way shops and the manufacturers do business I don't do much business with LP either.

Certainly LP isn't the answer for some of the divers we see posting there assembly and test questions here.

Regardless of what shops actually do, the manufacturer recommends they test a reg before they sell it and instruct the user on it's use. Aside from the BS factor the reason is to shift some of the liability to the store while adding another check for the customer.

If you're not going to buy from some one who can test and adjust it you need to do it yourself or bring it to some one and the manufacturer isn't going to cover that on warrety because they expect dealers to do it for free.

I have with my own eyes seen mail order regs that were old. They were never used but they sat in the box for a long time. They didn't work. If a responsible shop sells that reg they'll rebuild it before it goes out the door. Will the mail order houses do that?

I agree the whole thing is funny. A guy buys a SP reg from LP because the SP dealer is cheating him. Then they get it home and post here to find out how to put it together.

My answer is to not buy a SP (insert that manufacturer of your choice) reg from any one.

 

[MikeFerrara]

I wanted to point out the humor in this, really I do find it very funny but you bring out another point:

There is humor in it. I don't need to do much business with dive shops. I fix my own stuff and pump my own gas.

I don't care much for LP either.

What I find funny is some of those who do need a dive shop think that LP is the answer. All LP does is move boxes. It doesn't matter what's in the box they treat em all the same. If that's all you need then you're ok otherwise you still have problems to solve.

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<Specifically the diver was instructed to test the reg under pos pressure but not negative. The reg would pass the test even if it was missing an exhaust diaphragm. Thinking they have a perfectly functioning reg they could just end up sucking water. Is that as funny as your point?>
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If someone is so stupid as to dive a regulator without finding this before hand, then I would be the first the laugh, unless of course the stupid diver died from it. I&#8217;d be pissed at the instructor that certified the diver in the first place, especially if I was on vacation and it cut short my time. Now that instructor probably would have had a dive shop and want to sell equipment to the guy. He&#8217;d probably certify a ham sandwich if it had a few dollars to spend, what the hell he has a fat signed release anyway.

Truva

Lots of divers aren't taught to do a neg pressure test on their reg before diving. it should be done before every dive. If the person who assembled the reg didn't do it you're totally unprotected from like half the things that can go wron with a reg, the things that allow water in.

A real dummy can survive getting gear from a LDS and diving it. If you take the LDS out of it you have to replace it with something. Whether you get some one else to do it or you just get smarter yourself something has to be done. However if a diver stays a dummy and jus gets their stuff from LP they're missing the boat.

I don't matter to me.