Teenager with DCS, mother in denial, treatment delayed

[Searcaigh]

IWR is for Advanced Technical Diving and not for this part of the forum.

 

[lexvil]

It was standard in ‘71, there have been some changes over the past 50 some odd years.

 

[DandyDon]

Does anyone still have screenshots of the posts that are now no longer visible on FB?

Use these links to see them...

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and https://scubaboard.com/community/attachments/c2e9b785-85da-497d-a864-488ca1f468c7-png.721735/

 

[DiveProKoko]

SSI Open Water Section 3 - Decompression Sickness

 

[DiveProKoko]

Really? What agency is that? There's no mention of this procedure at all in my PADI OW manual. In fact, there's no discussion of what to do if you suspect DCI.

It's extremely dangerous if you don't know what you're doing....and clearly didn't work in the scenario given.

SSI Open Water Section 3 - Decompression Sickness

 

[DiveProKoko]

...It may not be standard, and probably shouldn't be done here, but it is a very real thing. There are classes taught about how to do it. There are even tables made specifically for it.

Roger that. I know it's a thing in technical diving, but I would estimate that less than 5% of all divers are trained in it and know how to do it property. So, we teach rec level divers to never do it because they don't know what they're doing....like this lady, apparently. LOL!

 

[poseident]

I have to wonder if they got their "training" from a friend with a C-card so they could do some shallow hunting without bothering with a real course, then got their fills thru him as they explored deeper dives?

Don, I think you nailed it there. In fact, I'd hazard a guess that there were no formal classes, no computers, or reasonable dive planning of any sort. 100% by-the-seat-of-your-boardshorts action here.

People operate in this mode across thousands of domains in life. (Unsafe drivers, people handling hazardous materials, the list could go for hours.) Many get by with it for a long time, if not forever. These cases where someone's luck didn't hold serve to remind the more conscientious of us how important it is to always strive to do things "the right way." (pay no mind to the profile pic, nothing to see there)

 

[Bob DBF]

In fact, I'd hazard a guess that there were no formal classes, no computers, or reasonable dive planning of any sort. 100% by-the-seat-of-your-boardshorts action here.

People operate in this mode across thousands of domains in life. (Unsafe drivers, people handling hazardous materials, the list could go for hours.) Many get by with it for a long time, if not forever.

The lack of formal class does not automatically mean the training was substandard, just as receiving a certification card does not mean a diver has proper training. Regardless training, whether formal or not, if a diver pays no attention to their training, there will be accidents. I have seen nothing that says whether the diver was certified or not.

 

[Esprise Me]

@DandyDon and @poseident, I'm curious as to your reasoning. Do you believe certified divers could never do something like this? I guess there's at least one agency out there that covers what to do in case of suspected DCS, but I've just gone through my entire PADI OW manual, and it doesn't. Also, it seems he was diving from a boat. It may have been a private boat; the post doesn't say. But if it wasn't--if he paid to go out on a dive boat--I would think they'd require a C-card.

 

[Marie13]

@DandyDon and @poseident, I'm curious as to your reasoning. Do you believe certified divers could never do something like this? I guess there's at least one agency out there that covers what to do in case of suspected DCS, but I've just gone through my entire PADI OW manual, and it doesn't. Also, it seems he was diving from a boat. It may have been a private boat; the post doesn't say. But if it wasn't--if he paid to go out on a dive boat--I would think they'd require a C-card.

IWR is really advanced stuff. The average run of the mill diver shouldn’t even attempt it. The fact that the mother sent her son back down with another diver is sketchy as hell, especially since there’s a chamber in the area.