Tank Prices

[HBDiveGirl]

You know I'm with you on all of that. I just couldn't help tossing in a comment about Pasley and Wrinkles and how low their air consumption is.

A flea tank is good for the flea circus

Rock on!

Christian

I'm with you there... I think I caught Mel actually putting air back into his tank one time. 20 minutes tooling around with him underwater and the flippin' SPG needle didn't move. Unbelievable!!

Flea circus!!!!
:lol: Cue the clown music :14: , 'course no one we know is on stage...

Rockin',
hbYeahItISBigEnough'chica

P.S. And may I remind you we are nowhere near the park boundry lines....

 

[Mo2vation]

I never got the people that throw up the objective, "My buddies don't dive a tank this big... I'll come back with 1100 pounds..."

I'm no hoover, but if I only come back with 1100 pounds after diving with someone who's not on a 130, I know I've been sumptious with my gas. I ALWAYS come back with tons of gas when diving with my non-130 buddies.

Look: You get no credit from your LDS for unused gas. That is a limp arguement, and the tank weighs less when you come out than when you went in, so what's the deal, Sally?

I knew the first time I strapped on a 130 that I instantly became the team's back up gas supply. And you know what, it feels good. I know I got enough to get me and my hoovering buddy (or baby tank buddy) out of just about any jam. That peace of mind comes with a price. These are expensive tanks. These are heavy tanks. But they are not unmanagable, and to me the price is worth the peace of mind.

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Ken

 

[Empty V]

I'm sold sold sold! No doubles, no single mini's just one big fat hp 130. You have all been an incredible help, even those arguing against the 130. Thank you thank you!

Caludette, Ken, and Christian - I think the 3 of you are SB stalking me. But dont worry, every time I post and you reply, I learn something new. What a great group of people I'm involved with. Thank you 1000 fold. We should all dive the conception sometime, maybe a fake trip to san miguel.

What would I do without scubaboard?

Billy

 

[headhunter]

What would I do without scubaboard?

Billy

Take up knitting.

Christian

 

[weiland]

Ok - you guys have me interested in this tank too. I was thinking of getting a steel 100, but am not sure now. If this 130 is 50+ lbs full, what are you guys wearing for weight. Can you describe a typical gear configuration on 1 of these mongo bottom time dives? I just got a neoprene drysuit and was floaty as hell on my last dives at Catalina. I dove 30lbs in weight with an AL80.

thanks - w

 

[Mo2vation]

Ok - you guys have me interested in this tank too. I was thinking of getting a steel 100, but am not sure now. If this 130 is 50+ lbs full, what are you guys wearing for weight. Can you describe a typical gear configuration on 1 of these mongo bottom time dives? I just got a neoprene drysuit and was floaty as hell on my last dives at Catalina. I dove 30lbs in weight with an AL80.

thanks - w

In my Tri-lam dry suit, I dive 4 pounds of lead.

Of course I dive a backplate and wing.

a 12 pound back plate...

Seriously - when I was diving a standard plate (6#) I was using 8 pounds of lead. I got the heavy plate and went to a 4# weight belt. Love it.

I can't honestly recommend diving a 130 with lots o' lead if you're in a wetsuit. Its just not real smart to be all the way down there and have something go wrong. But for a drysuit, rock on!

I dive my 130 with a wetsuit when lobstering. But I probably wouldn't take it to 100 feet in a WS if I had to wear another 25# of lead with this beast.

You're in a DS, so rock on!

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Ken

 

[Mitten Diver]

I own two of the 130's and would like to buy two more. I bought mine for the same reasons Ken stated, "additional gas for my dive buddy." My dive buddy happens to be my 16 year old son who dives with an HP 100. The 130 is an awesome tank, I will typically do two dives with my tank depending on the conditions and depth. I paired mine with an Andies trilam drysuit and one of Tobin's singles rig for Great Lakes diving and haven't looked back. I also use the 5 lb. bolt on weight plates.

Now just if competition would knock down the cost of steel tanks. Remember breath, breath, breath you will have plenty of gas with a 130 strapped on.

 

[limeyx]

Ok - you guys have me interested in this tank too. I was thinking of getting a steel 100, but am not sure now. If this 130 is 50+ lbs full, what are you guys wearing for weight. Can you describe a typical gear configuration on 1 of these mongo bottom time dives? I just got a neoprene drysuit and was floaty as hell on my last dives at Catalina. I dove 30lbs in weight with an AL80.

thanks - w

The PST 130 is about -1 pounds empty and Worthington -2 so you actually need a shade more weight than a worthington HP-100 (-2.5), about the same as a PST 100 (-1)

 

[limeyx]

I have to DeepDevilAdvocate this:
How would you feel, at say... 98fsw... diving with your sipper-buddy (who's porting the teeny-tiny-oh-so-cute tank,) if your reg fails and the two of you are now huffing and puffing on the flea tank, maybe struggling against other problems too, sucking the stuffing outta that little tank so fast you can see the SPG needle falling?

It's all fun and games until someone's OOA. Then no one complains about carrying too much air.
....
(and it's worth every penny...There! Still on topic.)

But that's not how RB really "works" though right -- you both reserve the same cft of gas, just different PSI in each tank. So if you hit RB on the 130, and your buddy goes OOA, then you are in exactly the *same* position as if the person on the 80 hits RB and you go OOA.

Of course, you can (with good reason) argue that the smaller tank person will usually hit RB first, but as long as you have a good RB calculation it should be fine.

However, I definitely hear you on the taking longer than expected to fix something.
We spent about 5 mins fixing a valve problem (in doubles) on our T1 class.

 

[Empty V]

Thanks to everyone for helping me out. My LDS quoted me $375 for the X8-130. I'm going to order it Friday, YAY!

Claudette,
I attempted to calculate my cf/m consumption, can you let me know if I did this correctly, it seems pretty simple.

Starting Pressure = 3480
Ending Pressure = 1024
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Difference = 2456

Dive Time = 51min
Cylinder Size = 100cf

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Results = 1.38 cf/m

Thanks!!!!