Sound Off ! Familiar with the term 'International' referencing 'yoke style' regs?

[Scared Silly]

A clamp seems more UK to me. Yoke or int. the rest of the world???

DIN - Deutsches Institut für Normung has nothing directly to do with diving.

 

[Tortuga68]

According to good friendo of mine, the 'International' terminology is not commonly used in the United States of America

 

[Katamuki]

I have never heard "INT" or international here in Japan or from other asian divers over the years.

 

[oxyhacker]

The term "International Outlet" is used in various literature, including, I think, some of the actual CE standards, to describe the 232 bar combination yoke/DIN valves.

 

[nkped]

DIN still is crazy tech stuff for like Cavers and SEALS only.

Or so I have been told by some people that will not breathe that Nitrox poison because it will eventually suck all of the calcium from your bones and make you like rap music.

Somebody please tell me that the Nitrox/rap music affinity comment is not true....

Chug

When I finally decided to try diving and went on a Discover Scuba dive in 2002 and watched the DM put a yoke first stage on a tank my reaction was that this was the most hare-brained design for a critical connector that it would be possible to imagine. Don't know that I have changed my mind.

 

[Walter]

......it came to my attention there's something of a dispute here on SB about the validity/popularity of the term 'international' when referencing the common 'yoke' style 1st-stage scuba regulator.....just wonderin' how many of you have either heard of or actually use this term ?

(hey, just be thankful this ain't a Spare Air/Long Hose/ B/P-wing / overfilling LP tanks / buying on the WWW from Leisure Pro / split-fins are for p*ssys question ! )

....put me down for one who's heard of this term on occassion, although I personally don't actually use the term myself.

Never heard of it before reading this thread.

 

[themagni]

I use "International" to talk about my Force Fins model.

At least, I do now.

 

[vladimir]

This is the post that spawned this silly conversation:

I don't know why the term "international" for reg mountings persists. It's purely an American term. I prefer the truly international name "yoke".

I should have just let it pass, but it seems that peterbj7 fancies himself an expert on all things American, and that he finds Americans somewhat irritating. But perhaps I'm reading too much into his posts.

I did a quick search of posts by peterbj7 with "american" in them. These are just some of them and are, of course, out of context. Individually most are somewhat reasonable. As a whole, however, it seems like a little disdain for all things American creeps in, from the way we dive to the way we drive our motorcycles. Again, hopefully I'm wrong, in which case I apologize:

Most of our diving is very hardcore compared with what a lot of American recreational divers do, certainly the warm water ones, and it's invaluable to have that extra reserve of air.

I know "experienced" American divers who won't carry or use one because they say their buoyancy control is so good they don't need an ascent platform. Rather missing the point..... Whether I need one or not I still use it.

Deployment is indeed a skill that has to be taught and learned. I generally start this right at beginner diver training, though I get many American divers who may have been certified years and have never seen or maybe heard of a DSMB. They have quite a steep learning curve! European divers are generally brought up with them and most visiting certiffied divers bring their own - and use them.

Sadly not many "Norte Americanos" seem to understand that. You'll look very hard for a diver in UK waters who doesn't have a DSMB & reel (not so sure about a mirror); you'll look even harder down here for a visiting American diver who DOES have one.

Do you have any idea why Americans persist in calling what they speak and write as English", when at any one time it has substantial differences from that language? Why not just "American"?

I do though sometimes have a problem distinguishing between bad English and standard American.

If these were separate incidents then you are indeed unlucky (though not as unlucky as they were). I've motorcycled for over 40 years, ride big bikes generally pretty fast (by American standards),

The Belikin beer here is a monopoly, but pretty good by most American standards (of course, we Brits wouldn't wash our feet in it!).

Can I ask what the abbreviations stand for? I'm sure GBR and PNG are totally meaningful to many people, but some of us aren't American and haven't a clue.

I have lived half of my adult life as an American abroad, and I have generally felt welcome by the people in my host countries, including the UK. I show them respect and find that it is usually reciprocated. If you can't manage that, you should probably stay home, literally or figuratively. Surely there must be a scuba-related forum in the UK where Peter would feel more at home?

 

[Tortuga68]

I should have just let it pass

Yeah probably. Let's get back to talking about diving. Be the bigger man

 

[Walter]

Vladimir, the links in your quotes should lead to the actual quotes. Every one of the links in your quotes in post 18 lead to the exact same post. Would you please fix that, so we can actually follow your links to the posts you've quoted?