Shore diving in shallow water (sloshed around by the waves when underwater)

[RXTdiver]

And what about your buddy? Didn’t he/she have some more lead you could borrow? If you knew that 16 lbs had you properly weighted in the pool then you should’ve known that it wouldn’t be enough in salt water if wearing the same gear and thermal protection.

I’m thinking what @tursiops is thinking.

Last time I had 12 lbs. In the pool so I took 16 lbs. to be sure. At the hotel's pool I found out that I needed 16 lbs, which was all I had. I also gained some weight since last time.

 

[RXTdiver]

Have you taken/are you taking a scuba class?

I did a reactivate a few months ago.

 

[Outbound]

Last time I had 12 lbs. In the pool so I took 16 lbs. to be sure. At the hotel's pool I found out that I needed 16 lbs, which was all I had. I also gained some weight since last time.

Ok, but again, if you needed 16 lbs in fresh water you should’ve known from your training that it wouldn’t be sufficient for salt water. And what about borrowing some spare lead from your buddy?

 

[arew+4]

This seems to be turning into some sort of inquest...

 

[RXTdiver]

Ok, but again, if you needed 16 lbs in fresh water you should’ve known from your training that it wouldn’t be sufficient for salt water. And what about borrowing some spare lead from your buddy?

Again, I thought I would only need 12 lbs. but I brought extra weight just to be sure. To my surprise I needed 16 lbs. I didnt expect that.

And because 16 lbs. is all I had, that's all I had. I really don't know how else to explain this to you.

Saltwater is more buoyant than freshwater, which is why I brought extra weight. But as it turns out, apparently that wasn't enough.

Does that answer your concerns?

 

[tursiops]

Again, I thought I would only need 12 lbs. but I brought extra weight just to be sure. To my surprise I needed 16 lbs. I didnt expect that.

And because 16 lbs. is all I had, that's all I had. I really don't know how else to explain this to you.

Saltwater is more buoyant than freshwater, which is why I brought extra weight. But as it turns out, apparently that wasn't enough.

Does that answer your concerns?

You rented your gear. Why didn't you just rent more lead?
Were you diving without a buddy?
You say you did a Reactivate....when was your last dive prior to the reactivation? How much weight did you need for the Reactivate?

 

[RXTdiver]

You rented your gear. Why didn't you just rent more lead?
Were you diving without a buddy?
You say you did a Reactivate....when was your last dive prior to the reactivation? How much weight did you need for the Reactivate?

Again, I thought that 16 lbs. would definitely be enough, but apparently it was not.
Diving with a buddy.
Last dive before activation was summer of 1997. That's a long time ago.
I think I needed 12 lbs. for the reactivate.

I hope this is enough.

 

[tursiops]

Again, I thought that 16 lbs. would definitely be enough, but apparently it was not.
Diving with a buddy.
Last dive before activation was summer of 1997. That's a long time ago.
I think I needed 12 lbs. for the reactivate.

I hope this is enough.

It seems the Reactivate was insufficient for your needs. Some take the full class after that many years off.....equipment has changed, best practices have changed, your body has changed.
I'm still unsure about your story:
You last dived in 1997. You took a Reactivate this year, presumably in a pool, and needed 12 lbs. Then, you went back to the pool and needed 16 lbs. Then you went to the ocean and needed more than 16 lbs, and seemed surprised at this. You had a buddy, who was apparently useless; no weight to offer, no info on your depth, kinda like he was not there.
Am I missing something?

 

[RXTdiver]

It seems the Reactivate was insufficient for your needs. Some take the full class after that many years off.....equipment has changed, best practices have changed, your body has changed.
I'm still unsure about your story:
You last dived in 1997. You took a Reactivate this year, presumably in a pool, and needed 12 lbs. Then, you went back to the pool and needed 16 lbs. Then you went to the ocean and needed more than 16 lbs, and seemed surprised at this. You had a buddy, who was apparently useless; no weight to offer, no info on your depth, kinda like he was not there.
Am I missing something?

In the pool at 16 lbs. that was at the hotel's pool, so it's not like I can drive back 5 hours for an addition 4 or 5 lbs. of weight. Again 16 lbs. was all I had at that time. So when I went into the ocean off the beach 16 lbs. was not enough. Oh but why didn't you add some more? Again, 16 lbs. was all I had at that time.

I passed the reactivate class with no problem. When you're a beginner it's hard to recall every factor that may affect trim and buoyancy. This is why websites like Scubaboard exist, so that people can ask questions just in case they are overlooking something or just in case they forgot to point something out.

I'm assuming you're experienced therefore these matters will occur to you immediately, but it's different for a beginner. As a beginner, it's hard to recall everything. That takes time, just like how it took you time when you were a beginner.

In one of my earlier posts, I mentioned that apparently I gain some weight since last time. I didn't realize that until I came home. That would mean that I would need even more weight than I thought right?
Right.

Let's summarize. The pool with 12 lbs. was not the same pool that had 16 lbs, therefore I didn't go "back to the pool." Don't complicate this. It wasn't even at the same time. The pool with 16 lbs. was at the hotel I was staying at. That was all the weight I had. I can't pull additional weights out of my butt, therefore 16 lbs. was all I had.

I think I've explained myself sufficiently.

 

[RXTdiver]

Ok, but again, if you needed 16 lbs in fresh water you should’ve known from your training that it wouldn’t be sufficient for salt water. And what about borrowing some spare lead from your buddy?

I'm aware that salt water is more buoyant than freshwater. When I discovered that 16 lbs. was what I needed when I was testing the weights in the pool, I couldn't get more weight. And do you know why?

Because that pool was at the hotel I was staying at and I wasn't going to drive back 5 hours just to pick up some additional weight. This is why I couldn't get additional weight. It wasn't available. Does that make sense?