Review Seaskin Nova drysuit

[JoeTPhilly]

Your bayonet lock o rings weren't preinstalled in the suit-side rings? That must be another difference with the latest kits, I think everyone else has had them in the box already connected together with the o-ring already in the channel.

Mine weren't installed. I guess the USA supplier is just saving time when making up the kits.

 

[JoeTPhilly]

I received my kit from DGX with everything shown except the black delrin rings. No extra 96mm o-rings for the channel on the face on the suit side ring, and none expected. Odd someone did receive those.

Hi, they weren't extra o-rings. They just weren't pre-installed. I was confused because all the set up videos only showed installing the o-rings on the glove retaining ring.

 

[MaxAir]

Hopefully last post on this... so DGX is arranging to ship the black rings to me. Based on correspondence with DGX, they apparently will get these rings from Max @ Cavemax.com. Not certain, but seems logical they may have got the kits from that same source as well.

Subsequently, DGX is updating their website "per Rolock to remove the black ring as part of the package. You can still purchase them separately; however, they are no longer part of the package.".

IMO, your results may vary depending on where you buy and their sourcing. As I mentioned previously today, Rolock still shows the 90-9091 kit including both blue and black rings.

 

[MaxAir]

Thats a really good price! I already have a couple things in my cart at mcmaster-carr so I added a pack of the 70x3 buna rings there, will probably be about the same since I'm going to be paying for shipping when I submit that order anyway later in the month.

Far more likely that I'd need spares for the cuff-to-glove ring "bayonet" o rings in the future. The ones for mounting gloves don't really do anything other than push through the glove to make the glove itself the sealing surface.

If you are at mcmaster-carr then I would guess you are there to order pee quick connects. If you have the hard wound Sitech Trigon hose, be sure to get a slightly smaller 5/16" barb for the hose side and a 3/8" barb for the catheter side. I got the 3/8" barb for both and had a bitch of a time getting the 3/8" barb into the hose - succeeded by using some dish soap as lube. Found this issue mentioned in the forum afterward, par for course, and the suggestion to use 5/16" :/

 

[JoeTPhilly]

Hopefully last post on this... so DGX is arranging to ship the black rings to me. Based on correspondence with DGX, they apparently will get these rings from Max @ Cavemax.com. Not certain, but seems logical they may have got the kits from that same source as well.

Subsequently, DGX is updating their website "per Rolock to remove the black ring as part of the package. You can still purchase them separately; however, they are no longer part of the package.".

IMO, your results may vary depending on where you buy and their sourcing. As I mentioned previously today, Rolock still shows the 90-9091 kit including both blue and black rings.

I got the same email but was told the black rings were being shipped to DGX and they would be sent out. I got the order number and everything.

DGX site now:

• Note: Black inner rings (similar to the blue rings) DO NOT come with this system
• Black inner inner rings are only used with a specific type of rubber gloves that have an inner insulation layer
• Black rings are sold separately (SFT-9902 Black Ring for Glove Mounting - cost $20.00 per pair)

 

[JoeTPhilly]

Back to Seaskin... I received my 150 undergarment today. I placed the order on March 11th so it took exactly 4 weeks. Impressive! It fits perfect and so does the base layer I ordered since it didn't increase the shipping. Very pleased.

 

[MaxAir]

Back to Seaskin... I received my 150 undergarment today. I placed the order on March 11th so it took exactly 4 weeks. Impressive! It fits perfect and so does the base layer I ordered since it didn't increase the shipping. Very pleased.

Yeah, the 150 & 250 are like custom tailored sleeping bags. Cozy, but seem to require ability to dislocate a shoulder to get out of

 

[Badger7]

I've got a tracking number! Less than a week later than the dispatch date they estimated a few months ago. As expected, Rolocks were taken off the order, and supposedly will be refunded. Same with the leg gaitors I ordered in case of floaty feet. I'm sure I can make a pair with some cordura and elastic if I actually need them, and you guys set great expectations for the rolock backorders, so I already have a pair ready to go when the suit gets here next week. Nothing left to do but pay the duty bill and go diving!

 

[MaxAir]

I've got a tracking number! Less than a week later than the dispatch date they estimated a few months ago. As expected, Rolocks were taken off the order, and supposedly will be refunded. Same with the leg gaitors I ordered in case of floaty feet. I'm sure I can make a pair with some cordura and elastic if I actually need them, and you guys set great expectations for the rolock backorders, so I already have a pair ready to go when the suit gets here next week. Nothing left to do but pay the duty bill and go diving!

I haven't had a chance to dive this suit in salt yet, just a couple 18ft pool dives , so in fresh water and my usual 15L/117cuft steel tank, using 12lb of weight - still a bit too much without thermal under garments, but the 12lb would be enough weight to account for that when wearing 150 insulation. The made to fit suit with socks, + my usual dive sock layers + DUI "rock boots" have zero issue with floaty feet.

I've also been trying out some Apeks RK3 HD and 4th Element Tech fins - both have negative buoyancy. Leaning toward something more neutral and slightly stiffer, maybe Deep 6 Eddys.

Definitely haven't been needing the negative fins and definitely have not noticed any issue with excess air in the legs/feet. One major reason I got the suit with socks attached instead of generic boots was to have a better contact and feel of the fins. Here's a shot showing suit inverted... note the lack of any leg/foot bloating. If your suit fits right, no way you should need gaiters.

 

[stretchthepenn]

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone using the black glove mount rings. Those are for gloves with an attached lining correct, thicker than just the thin cotton or poly liner flocking in like a 660 or 720? I'm sure nearly everyone that needs fatter gloves with thick liners is using something like a showa 495 with their own liners rather an insulated glove like a 490 with a liner that can't be removed. If my understanding is correct, almost no one would need the black rings, so not supplying them is a really good idea if it helps them control costs.

The rolock 90 set I picked up recently from drysuitspareparts came with the black rings, so I have an extra set of black glove mount rings I have no real use for either. I suspect they are still previous stock rolock 90 kits, which is why they still contain the black rings and they why still sell for the 2023 price.

I tried the Rolock 90 blue rings with two types of lined gloves: Showa 620 (orange) and 660 (blue).

With the 620s, the fit is OK-not-great; the ring is super-snug and a real SOB to remove.

With the 660s, the fit is sucktastic; the ring is permanently attached. I honestly think I'mma have to cut the glove out when it finally tears. In the meantime, if you see a guy with mismatched orange-and-blue drygloves, you'll know it's me.

Anyone want to send me their unwanted pair of black rings? I'll pay postage and give them a good home.