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[Dan]

That reminds me of M/Y Dream Keeper:

Thread '4 missing 28 rescued dive yacht sinks with in tubbataha after departing from cebu'

Apr 30, 2023

Squall suspected in dive boat sinking off Tubbataha

A possible cause being investigated for the sinking of M/Y Dream Keeper, a yacht that transports divers to the Tubbataha Reefs Natural Park (TRNP) and World Heritage Site in the town of Cagayancillo, is related to a squall. Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) District Palawan commander Cpt. Dennis Rem...

palawan-news.com

• apedai
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• Forum: Accidents, Incidents, & Near Misses

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I’ll stick with 3 deck (lower, main & upper) liveaboard & stay in the upper deck cabin if possible. Also during an emergency, have a small dry bag containing my passport, wallet, iPhone, & a small dive light hanging on the exit door for a quick grab & go.

I posted my fanny dry bag in the other thread:

Post in thread 'Route change from BDE to North'

Dec 2, 2024

Bringing a dry bag to keep by the door for passport, water bottle, and light.

Here’s mine (my iPhone has waterproof case, but it’ll be in the fanny drybag too).

• Dan

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[Umuntu]

I posted my fanny dry bag in the other thread:

Post in thread 'Route change from BDE to North'

Dec 2, 2024

Bringing a dry bag to keep by the door for passport, water bottle, and light.

Here’s mine (my iPhone has waterproof case, but it’ll be in the fanny drybag too).

• Dan

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I can’t help but think that you are overly focused on saving minor possessions, all easily replaced and covered by insurance, rather than saving your life.

Every country’s embassy and consulate are routinely dealing with citizens who have lost their passports, it’s a minor inconvenience to lose it.

 

[ontdiver]

I can’t help but think that you are overly focused on saving minor possessions, all easily replaced and covered by insurance, rather than saving your life.

Every country’s embassy and consulate are routinely dealing with citizens who have lost their passports, it’s a minor inconvenience to lose it.

Most of us have never had to use a go bag. And most of us have never had to abandon a vessel in the middle of the night. But I venture that most of us would take comfort knowing that if we had set up a go bag and eventually had to use it, that we would not have to wait for consular assistance to get a travel document.

 

[BoltSnap]

wait for consular assistance to get a travel document.

In the absence of consular assistance in the country/area where you are traveling or if you're outside their coverage area while diving, or if unforeseen circumstances arise, remember: your passport is your most valuable possession when traveling in this unpredictable messed up world. Next on the list are your medications, followed by your credit cards and cash.

 

[Dan]

I can’t help but think that you are overly focused on saving minor possessions, all easily replaced and covered by insurance, rather than saving your life.

Every country’s embassy and consulate are routinely dealing with citizens who have lost their passports, it’s a minor inconvenience to lose it.

Tell that to the survivors of capsized boat trying to find upside down exit door, underwater, in the dark with 20cm air pocket on the cabin floor.

I have iPhone, dive light, medicine box, water bottle, wallet in there too.

 

[Adr1an]

I can’t help but think that you are overly focused on saving minor possessions, all easily replaced and covered by insurance, rather than saving your life.

Every country’s embassy and consulate are routinely dealing with citizens who have lost their passports, it’s a minor inconvenience to lose it.

You need to understand Egypt's geography and to take into account that pretty much all foreign embassies are located in Cairo. There are a few consulates in Alexandria (totally irrelevant for our discussion) plus one Saudi consulate in Suez and one Sudanese consulate in Aswan.

Now, if one is to lose all their belongings when a LoB sinks, last thing they need is a trip to Cairo to get a new passport. Certainly the passport in not worth endangering your life, but if all you have to do is grab a small bag located near the bed I'd say that the split second you need isn't going to make a difference.

 

[nippurmagnum]

I can’t help but think that you are overly focused on saving minor possessions, all easily replaced and covered by insurance, rather than saving your life.

Every country’s embassy and consulate are routinely dealing with citizens who have lost their passports, it’s a minor inconvenience to lose it.

Losing your passport in Egypt will add at least a week to your ability to return home. Fine if you want to spend another week in Cairo, having lost all your possessions. Otherwise, it's a major hassle.

I once called the U.S. embassy in Cairo on a Friday night, on behalf of a dive buddy who thought he had lost his passport the day before we were scheduled to board our liveaboard in Hurghada. The guy who picked up the phone said to call back on Tuesday, because Monday was a holiday. I told him it was an emergency, because without the passport he wouldn't be able to travel to Hurghada to go join the liveaboard that afternoon, and he calmly said to call back on Tuesday, because Monday was a holiday.

BTW, later that evening my buddy and I mentally retraced our steps, and figured out that my buddy must have dropped his passport at the Saqqara pyramids earlier that day. It turned out that he had dropped his passport while taking this picture.

The next morning at the crack of dawn, my buddy went back to the Saqqara pyramids and found the passport right where he had dropped it.

 

[Umuntu]

Tell that to the survivors of capsized boat trying to find upside down exit door, underwater, in the dark with 20cm air pocket on the cabin floor.

I have iPhone, dive light, medicine box, water bottle, wallet in there too.

Those Belgians? In the video were laughing and making a selfie video. I didn’t see them trying to self rescue.

To qualify as a RYA Yachtmaster it’s necessary to take a course where you practice ditching into the sea and climbing into a liferaft. The only two things I would recommend would be thermal protection and a life jacket. Particularly in heavy seas, and it’s exhausting to just stay afloat.

I don’t see anything resembling stuff to help you survive in the sea in your Go bag, particularly if you’re planning to jump overboard.

The passengers who haven’t been found probably ended up in the sea in a heavy storm, unfortunately things don’t look very promising for them.

 

[Umuntu]

I told him it was an emergency, because without the passport he wouldn't be able to travel to Hurghada to go join the liveaboard that afternoon

That is not an emergency

 

[Umuntu]

What if there is no consular assistance in the country where your diving or your are outside their coverage area or some other unknown and/or foreseen circumstances? Your passport is your most valuable possion when you are traveling in this screwed up world, your medications come next and your your CCs and cash.

Where countries don’t have their own consular representative in a country, they normally have an arrangement with another country to cover their citizens in that country. This is often the case in smaller countries or countries where, for whatever diplomatic reason, your country chooses not to be on the ground.