Unknown Sea Story lob sinks

[nippurmagnum]

Further background when dealing with tourist deaths in Egypt.

When the Sinai regional governor General Abdel-Fadeel Shosha was asked what he thought about the previous tourist deaths by shark bite being the work of Israeli Mosad agents and a trained killer shark he replied he couldn't rule it out. It was possible, He stated that Israel was trying to undermine the Egyptian tourism industry. He further went on to say "Whether this was an Israeli agent in a shark costume, a specially indoctrinated Zionist shark, or a remote controlled cybershark, the general did not elaborate, but he says the theory needed investigating.

Now it's a rough wave followed by silent survivors and the military generals still rule this area together with the hotels and if your fortunate to have read a copy of the letter said General "Shark Boy" Abdel-Fadeel Shosha wrote to the hotel managers you may get an idea of the extent of cover up that goes on.

I thought you were joking about the Mossad shark theory, but nope:

Egyptian Official: Israel Could Be Behind Deadly Shark Attack | Fox News

Egyptian Official: Israel Could Be Behind Deadly Shark Attack

www.foxnews.com

 

[tridacna]

I thought you were joking about the Mossad shark theory, but nope:

Egyptian Official: Israel Could Be Behind Deadly Shark Attack | Fox News

Egyptian Official: Israel Could Be Behind Deadly Shark Attack

www.foxnews.com

"Shark attacks at Egypt's Red Sea resorts are rare, and three shark experts from the U.S. are trying to determine what is behind them.

Allow me a guess: Sharks.

 

[Adr1an]

I thought you were joking about the Mossad shark theory, but nope:

Egyptian Official: Israel Could Be Behind Deadly Shark Attack | Fox News

Egyptian Official: Israel Could Be Behind Deadly Shark Attack

www.foxnews.com

A white beluga whale was recently killed under the "suspicion" that it was a Russian spy.

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/03/nx-s1-5098968/hvaldimir-russian-spy-beluga-whale-dead

I wouldn't blame too much the Egyptian authorities for not ruling out the "Mossad shark" theory.

However learning more about the exact circumstances of the Sea story sinking it's an entirely different matter, but scarce information doesn't necessarily means there's some sort of cover up going on. If a rogue wave hits and capsizes a boat when everyone is sleeping there's not much to say about the events...

 

[bvbellomo]

Regardless the boat is built for military or commercial purpose, safety & seaworthy boat design, to me, is the upmost important to consider before deciding to be on the boat. By looking at Sea Story vs Ferox, which one do you think has lower center of gravity (i.e., more stable)?


M/Y Sea Story (courtesy of Mark Crowley Russel)


MV Ferox (courtesy of Colombia Dive Adventures)

Here’s another liveaboard, Blue Manta, that I was on in February this year. How is its center of gravity (COG) compared to that of Sea Story?


MV Blue Manta (courtesy of PADI.travel.com)

Here’s another ship, Seaventure, that I was on last week in Antarctica. How is its COG compared to that of Sea Story?


MV Seaventure (courtesy of polartours.com)

On the way back from Antarctica to Ushuaia, it passed through a 9m (30’) wave that had thrown some of us to the side wall and off chairs, but the ship was still right side up.

As someone who isn't a nautical engineer but understands physics, center of gravity seems the most important and it is what sticks out at me as an obvious problem. We do not know the draft of any of these boats, so we can't even make a realistic guess where the center of gravity is, other than it appears higher than I'd think possible for a sea worthy boat. If this is the problem, it should be an easy fix for whoever sets regulations.

I don't see the relevance of overengineered rust-buckets repurposed as dive boats in Indonesia. They may be far better for 20m waves, hurricanes and typhoons, but those conditions don't occur on the Red Sea.

As far as I know, center of gravity did not play a part in any of the other liveaboard disasters in Egypt. Fire seems to be the number 1 danger, and running aground seems number 2. To me, the Sea Story running aground is the most plausible explanation from the limited and conflicting information released. If that is what happened, center of gravity or even boat design didn't play a big part here.

 

[scubadada]

As someone who isn't a nautical engineer but understands physics, center of gravity seems the most important and it is what sticks out at me as an obvious problem. We do not know the draft of any of these boats, so we can't even make a realistic guess where the center of gravity is, other than it appears higher than I'd think possible for a sea worthy boat. If this is the problem, it should be an easy fix for whoever sets regulations.

I don't see the relevance of overengineered rust-buckets repurposed as dive boats in Indonesia. They may be far better for 20m waves, hurricanes and typhoons, but those conditions don't occur on the Red Sea.

As far as I know, center of gravity did not play a part in any of the other liveaboard disasters in Egypt. Fire seems to be the number 1 danger, and running aground seems number 2. To me, the Sea Story running aground is the most plausible explanation from the limited and conflicting information released. If that is what happened, center of gravity or even boat design didn't play a big part here.

The Carlton Queen capsized in 2023 due to instability.

 

[encarnizado]

Egypt dive boat sank because it wasn't built for open water, sources claim

A dive boat sank off the coast of Egypt last week. Several people have died, seven are still missing. Faulty construction and lax safety standards, ac

www.greenprophet.com

 

[Dan]

As someone who isn't a nautical engineer but understands physics, center of gravity seems the most important and it is what sticks out at me as an obvious problem. We do not know the draft of any of these boats, so we can't even make a realistic guess where the center of gravity is, other than it appears higher than I'd think possible for a sea worthy boat. If this is the problem, it should be an easy fix for whoever sets regulations.

I don't see the relevance of overengineered rust-buckets repurposed as dive boats in Indonesia. They may be far better for 20m waves, hurricanes and typhoons, but those conditions don't occur on the Red Sea.

As far as I know, center of gravity did not play a part in any of the other liveaboard disasters in Egypt. Fire seems to be the number 1 danger, and running aground seems number 2. To me, the Sea Story running aground is the most plausible explanation from the limited and conflicting information released. If that is what happened, center of gravity or even boat design didn't play a big part here.

I posted in post #125 about M/Y Dream Kepper capsized by a squall in Tubbataha. It looked like to have high COG.

Thread '4 missing 28 rescued dive yacht sinks with in tubbataha after departing from cebu'

Apr 30, 2023

Squall suspected in dive boat sinking off Tubbataha

A possible cause being investigated for the sinking of M/Y Dream Keeper, a yacht that transports divers to the Tubbataha Reefs Natural Park (TRNP) and World Heritage Site in the town of Cagayancillo, is related to a squall. Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) District Palawan commander Cpt. Dennis Rem...

palawan-news.com

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Nov 29, 2024

Built too tall for the footprint,

That reminds me of M/Y Dream Keeper:

I’ll stick with 3 deck (lower, main & upper) liveaboard & stay in the upper deck cabin if possible. Also during an emergency, have a small dry bag containing my passport, wallet, iPhone, & a small dive light hanging on the exit door for a quick grab & go.

• Dan

 

[bvbellomo]

The Carlton Queen capsized in 2023 due to instability.

Passengers reported the boat was listing to its starboard side when they boarded. The next morning it was 20-30 degrees and then overcorrected to 5 degrees towards port before suddenly tilting far to starboard again and sinking.

Clearly this was a design or maintenance issue, but something beyond just a high center of gravity.

 

[Umuntu]

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[roman50]

I am speechless... 7 days after the accident and there are no survivors accounts, no known accident location, nothing... Egyptians are masters! I mean I am no news whore but wouldn't we like to know what actually has happened just to know what can happen on our next LOB?