Scubapro Mk 16 with DIN connector on a 300 bar tank?

[black_sea]

A bit confused, have a Scubapro Mk 16 with DIN connector, how do I use it on on a 300 bar tank?
The reg is rated for 200, is there an adapter? Found diff information online.

 

[Zung]

You need to replace your DIN kit with a 300 bar kit like this one.
All modern SP 1st are designed for 300 bar, but sometimes some of them come fitted with a 200 bar DIN kit. The difference is the number of threads on the knob, 5 for 200 bar and 7 for 300 bar (I think), so a 200 bar will NOT seal in a 300 bar tank.
There goes $50:depressed:

 

[halocline]

If you want to send the 200 bar DIN wheel to the U.S. I'll buy it from you, I have a 200 bar retainer. I'd use it on my MK2 for a stage/pony bottle. Send me a PM.

 

[black_sea]

Thank you for your replies. I think I will keep this reg with the 200 bar din, as I travel a lot and most rentals do not use 300 bar tanks. Egypt you are lucky enough to have 190 bar in your tank... Though maybe I should count the th4eads anyway.

So I might as well just get a dedicated 300 bar din reg.
So there is no portable non-permanent solution? like the din valve to yoke adapter...

What about the hoses that all say do not exceed 250 bar on them? This does not matter as the air coming from the first stage is 7 bar or so?
This is all very confusing.

 

[Zung]

A 300 bar regulator WILL fit a 200 bar tank, so THAT's a permanent solution; and you can fit a yoke adapter if required.

It doesn't make much sense to fit a 200 bar kit on a reg. Maybe yours was fitted with a yoke originally, and someone replaced it with a 200 bar kit. It's a bit cheaper, about CHF 60 vs CHF 80 over here.

The only hose that sees the full pressure from the tank is the pressure gauge (SPG) hose. All the rest are on IP, 9-10 bar.

 

[black_sea]

ok, this makes sense. I will ask a tech to see if I can fit this on a 300 bar tank this week at the divecenter. ooh, the adventures of an American in Europe!

 

[halocline]

Thank you for your replies. I think I will keep this reg with the 200 bar din, as I travel a lot and most rentals do not use 300 bar tanks. Egypt you are lucky enough to have 190 bar in your tank... Though maybe I should count the th4eads anyway.

So I might as well just get a dedicated 300 bar din reg.
So there is no portable non-permanent solution? like the din valve to yoke adapter...

What about the hoses that all say do not exceed 250 bar on them? This does not matter as the air coming from the first stage is 7 bar or so?
This is all very confusing.

You can replace your DIN fitting with the 300 bar fitting and still use it on 200 bar valves. In fact, 99% of regulators fitted with DIN use the 300 bar fitting. It's just a little longer, so that it works with all DIN valves. The 300 bar valves are a little deeper. That was done so that 200 bar regs would not be used on tanks with 300 bars of pressure. It has nothing to do with the strength of the fittings or the valves themselves.

The only reason to use a 200 bar fitting on your reg is if you want the fitting to be shorter (about 1/4" shorter). I would not be concerned about the ability of your MK16 to handle the extra pressure of the HP tanks; it'll do fine.

The 300 bar DIN wheel should have 7 or 8 threads that you can count. The 200 bar wheel should have 5, maybe 6.

The hoses you're talking about probably say don't exceed 250 PSI, not bar. Those are low pressure hoses that only experience IP, about 140-150 PSI or 10 bar. I have never seen a hose labeled "250bar" which would be a HP hose with a capacity of about 3600 PSI.

So, if you like the reg, want to keep it DIN and make sure it will be compatible with any tank, put a 300 bar DIN fitting on it and carry a DIN/yoke adapter. But first, I would count the threads on your DIN fitting, as I kind of suspect it's already 300 bar. I've never seen a scubapro 200 bar DIN fitting on a reg as recent as the MK16, only on much older regs. It certainly could be 200 bar, but I think that would be unusual, at least here in the U.S.