Scuba Tragedy off Gloucester

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frank_delargy:
Here is an interesting local (Cape Ann) non-diving BB discussion on this incident.
http://p219.ezboard.com/Diver-Missing--Niles-Beach/fcapeannonlinefrm1.showMessage?topicID=12072.topic
don't miss page 2.

My attention was drawn more to page 1 where the illustrious 'Mazzie46' turns the discussion of a man's death into how can divers use MY sand, MY parking lot and MY ocean w/o paying taxes!! Some people on Cape Ann have a one track mind! What a pathetic post!

LobstaMan
 
LobstaMan:
My attention was drawn more to page 1 where the illustrious 'Mazzie46' turns the discussion of a man's death into how can divers use MY sand, MY parking lot and MY ocean w/o paying taxes!! Some people on Cape Ann have a one track mind! What a pathetic post!

Yeah, Mazzie46 is a real moron, apparently.

Any confirmation that this was part of a class? Where was the instructor during this? It seems like there should be very little mystery about what happened with a fatality during a class.

My sympathy to the family and the fiancee.
 
Thalassamania:
Regardless of the proximate or ultimate cause, an unwitnessed fatality during a course of instruction is unacceptable and, I feel, way outside of the duty owed by an instructor. Maybe something will come out that will explain this.
Hmmm... sometime in the training you have to let 'em go... I prefer an incremental approach - or do you espouse the "stay right by 'em until you're done with 'em" and then cut 'em loose completely and all at once?"
I suppose from a liability standpoint I should hold their hands until they and I sign off that they're completely and totally done with the course, but somehow I don't think that would produce very competent, comfortable, self-sufficient divers.
Bottom line - in any course of instruction whose goal is to cut the diver loose, there will be times when the diver is "unwitnessed."
Rick
 
Rick Murchison:
Hmmm... sometime in the training you have to let 'em go... I prefer an incremental approach - or do you espouse the "stay right by 'em until you're done with 'em" and then cut 'em loose completely and all at once?"
I suppose from a liability standpoint I should hold their hands until they and I sign off that they're completely and totally done with the course, but somehow I don't think that would produce very competent, comfortable, self-sufficient divers.
Bottom line - in any course of instruction whose goal is to cut the diver loose, there will be times when the diver is "unwitnessed."
Rick
While they're part of a class I think you have to at least keep a hairy eyeball focused on them, I do not think that an accident that occurs during a class should be unwitnessed.
 
LobstaMan:
My attention was drawn more to page 1 where the illustrious 'Mazzie46' turns the discussion of a man's death into how can divers use MY sand, MY parking lot and MY ocean w/o paying taxes!! Some people on Cape Ann have a one track mind! What a pathetic post!

LobstaMan
As I recall, he was rebuffed for that attitude on that board as well. I was particularly interested in the quite detailed discussion/history of the dive team and it's woes by Deputy Chief Schlichte. Just as with this board, regarding the incident, there is discussion about the hypothetical.
 
When I did my first drysuit dive without a cert instructor my buddy who is well known and very experienced never went out of arms reach from me for the whole 1 hr dive. Im very greatful to have met my buddy in the OW dving class. I started drysuit diving after racking up 3 yrs of experience and went through all theoretical training except an actual cert dive.
 
Has anyone seen an update on this? Not being morbid but just want to avoid whatever caused it.
 
I didn't get the impression it was a class
 
johlar:
I didn't get the impression it was a class

johlar:
BOSTON -- A Wilmington, Mass., man is dead after a diving accident off the shores of Gloucester and the reason for his death has police baffled.
David Lanardis, 43, was pulled from just 6 feet of water Sunday.
Police said the man was working towards his dry suit certification when he died
Apparently, diving with a group, Lanardis was supposed to go back to shore with a diver who was cold but then Lanardis never made it back to meet the others.
Lanardis had plenty of air remaining in his tank.

This post (by you:)) indicates it was part of a class.
 

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