Sandwich Sidemount

[Razorista]

If someone did use sidemount in open water before Steve Bogaerts nobody knew about it.
Steve himself is using it for 'extreme cave exploration' he doesn't count.
Lamar always marketed to cave divers, judged by his videos he seems never to have thought about open water applications except cavern.

Steve Martin more or less 'pioneered' worldwide sidemount adoption outside caves, in my opinion.
And instructors without challenging caves close by like Andy Davis, Garry Dallas and Tom Steiner took it forward from that point in the last few years only.

 

[MSargeant]

Steve Martin more or less 'pioneered' worldwide sidemount adoption outside caves, in my opinion.
And instructors without challenging caves close by like Andy Davis, Garry Dallas and Tom Steiner took it forward from that point in the last few years only.

Garry has been diving sidemount for the same amount of time as Steve Martin, if not for longer... Same for Diving caves...

 

[Razorista]

Garry has been diving sidemount for the same amount of time as Steve Martin, if not for longer... Same for Diving caves...

But he was more 'quiet' about it until quite recently

 

[MSargeant]

But he was more 'quiet' about it until quite recently

Not really, he just primarily did U.K. stuff, known for years.

 

[Bennno]

If someone did use sidemount in open water before Steve Bogaerts nobody knew about it.
Steve himself is using it for 'extreme cave exploration' he doesn't count.
Lamar always marketed to cave divers, judged by his videos he seems never to have thought about open water applications except cavern.

Steve Martin more or less 'pioneered' worldwide sidemount adoption outside caves, in my opinion.
And instructors without challenging caves close by like Andy Davis, Garry Dallas and Tom Steiner took it forward from that point in the last few years only.

What's your source? How long have been diving?
How do you know 'nobody knew'?

 

[bamafan]

Razorista you are definitely entertaining. I give you that.

 

[Razorista]

Not really, he just primarily did U.K. stuff, known for years.

The sidemount users before where and are quiet, if you take Garry Dallas as an example people primarily know him as a Diamond user (Apeks today), the Diamond exists only since 2011/12.

Steve Martin was also known before, but no comparison to his fame today.

 

[Razorista]

Toddy was one of the first to go public with interviews explaining how to use his system in an open water situation.
Here in Germany he became known at the same time as Steve.
He went public in my opinion because he was one of the few who already had a working system, when the current sidemount craze started and did not have to 'steal' ideas like most of the others.

 

[MSargeant]

The sidemount users before where and are quiet, if you take Garry Dallas as an example people primarily know him as a Diamond user (Apeks today), the Diamond exists only since 2011/12.

Steve Martin was also known before, but no comparison to his fame today.

And if you've known Garry and the scene in the U.K. for years then you'll know he's "primarily" known for his hair, height and very, very high standard of training. He's used a plethora of rigs over the years, not limited to a homemade harness predating the razor, both the razor harness and following full package system, a modified version, SMS100, Stealth, Halcyon Contour and the list goes on.

Maybe YOU primarily know him as a Diamond user but... That's just you.

 

[Razorista]

No, he was and is recommended to me as a Diamond expert (since I often dive with people using Diamonds, I also get some of 'their' recommendations ...) , because his videos with it where exceptionally impressive, I think.