Riding a DSMB up from a deep wreck???

[dave22387]

Mid water the SMB is already up. Can't get quicker than that.

Probably not deployed unless you're at your first stop

There certainly are complications. For starts you've got 2 of everything. Its for sure extra stuff, and you really dont need extra stuff unless you've made poor equipment choices.

 

[dave22387]

Explain how having a second inflator raises any real risk plz. It's not plugged in and has no air.. ..

 

[PfcAJ]

Probably not deployed unless you're at your first stop

Deploy SMB from the bottom. The bag needs to be up asap so the boat knows where you're headed. Ripping gulfstream current will get you lost REAL quick.

 

[dave22387]

Deploy SMB from the bottom. The bad needs too be up asap so the boat knows where you're headed. Ripping gulfstream current will get you lost REAL quick.

In order to do that here you would potentially need 500-600 feet of line with the current. Plus your line would probably snap under the tension.

 

[PfcAJ]

Explain how having a second inflator raises any real risk plz. It's not plugged in and has no air.. ..

Since you're not using it you don't know if its working.

An extra inflator hose needs to be put somewhere. Its very existence is just one more think to get snagged.

Its not what you normally use. I will contend that your muscle memory will not operate a 2nd bladder with all of its backward parts with the same efficiency as you operate the primary bladder with.

Depending on the failure, the 1st bladder might still hold air. Now you've got that aircell to deal with and the backup bladder aircell to deal with.

All this because....why?

Leave the extra junk that you don't need at home.

 

[PfcAJ]

In order to do that here you would potentially need 500-600 feet of line with the current. Plus your line would probably snap under the tension.

Here? You mean like where I dive?

I dive 20+ miles, 170-240ft deep out in the Gulfstream with 3-4kt currents on a fairly regular basis. The line does not snap and a 400' reel is more than adequate.

 

[CuzzA]

An extra inflator hose needs to be put somewhere.

Why? Oral inflate. If someone is doing these types of dives, I would expect they can handle oral inflating a second bladder to manage an ascent.

Just a reminder regarding using the bag, it was you who first pointed out the issue of ascending on a bag because of potentially needing both hands.

Goobery.

If you find yourself needed two hands you no longer have an SMB. It’s up-up-and-away.

 

[PfcAJ]

Why? Oral inflate. If someone is doing these types of dives, I would expect they can handle oral inflating a second bladder to manage an ascent.

Just a reminder regarding using the bag, it was you who first pointed out the issue of ascending on a bag because of potentially needing both hands.

I mean the corrugated inflator hose.

I did bring it up. I'd rather not lose my SMB. I think the prosed method earlier in this thread for shooting an SMB is silly because its so easy to lose it and it requires the use of two hands as a matter of course. In contrast, ascending on an SMB because your wing broke is a bit different. You're already near neutral (balanced rig), so the SMB is really just there to take the edge off and let you relax through the deco. Really though, if you're rig is balanced, you're only negative by the amount of gas you're carrying, which is quite minimal.

 

[Diving Dubai]

Where?

If you have the expense to dive, especially technical, you ought to buy a Drysuit. No ifs, ands, or buts...

If you’re diving 60m with multiple stages in a wetsuit, whether you have a dual bladder wing, or not, you need a Drysuit even in 80s.

Sorry, but not for the first time your position shows your lack of actual experience

I'm happy to tackle 60m dives with 2 deco's in a wetsuit. Here at 30m it's still 38C in the summer. On the surface the air temps will be in the high 40's. I do have a breathable drysuit, and I can tell you from actual experience - it's not happening, not it the summer.

Deco can be miserable enough with perspiration running down the inside of your mask

So you can take your No ifs and No buts and put them in a pipe.

 

[EireDiver606]

Sorry, but not for the first time your position shows your lack of actual experience

I'm happy to tackle 60m dives with 2 deco's in a wetsuit. Here at 30m it's still 38C in the summer. On the surface the air temps will be in the high 40's. I do have a breathable drysuit, and I can tell you from actual experience - it's not happening, not it the summer.

Deco can be miserable enough with perspiration running down the inside of your mask

So you can take your No ifs and No buts and put them in a pipe.

It doesn’t matter how many dives you have. Just because someone has 2 thousand dives, doesn’t mean they’re a good diver.
I never said I have much experience of diving. I’m only a Fundamentals diver with a hundred or so dives. I don’t claim to be anything, but I’m interested in these conversations because I want to do serious dives when I get a tech pass. I’m enthusiastic and if I’m wrong I’m wrong but its more dangerous doing deep dives with multiple stages in a wetsuit in general. I’ve never heard of water that hot, so of course, the rare exception applies maybe like in UAE. Don’t tell me I’m bang out wrong, when if it was anywhere other than UAE or any other scorching place, I’d be right.

Please let me know if I ever say something wrong. This is simply what was taught to me. I post to learn more from corrections from experienced divers more than to start arguments etc.