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lowviz

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A) All my PSD and responder certs have a time limit on them (usually 2 years), and for good reason. You forget, get rusty, never use the skill, somebody finds a better way, etc.

B) No time limit sport cert = You were exposed to it once, who knows how you'll perform today. I have a serious problem with the "no time limit" part.

IMHO: Take Rescue Diver after OW, retake as needed. It is all about you, the diver, not a bunch of plastic. You will learn plenty of useful skills and find out what you need to work on for your next go at it...



Sport agencies: How about offering a (within 2-year) HALF-PRICE Dive Rescue refresher course?
 

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Sport agencies: How about offering a (within 2-year) HALF-PRICE Dive Rescue refresher course?
@lowviz: I'm 100% with you on practicing rescue skills. I'm not so sure that there needs to be an agency certification attached to it.

Why don't dive shops just schedule an OW Refresher/Rescue Skills Practice Day at a local dive site?
Divers with only OW certification would be given the opportunity to practice OW skills with instructors/AIs/DMs and could sit in on a "free" rescue safety seminar.
Divers with Rescue certifications could participate in several emergency scenarios set up by the teaching pros at the dive shop.
I see this as a win-win situation for everyone involved:
  • The dive shop gets some facetime with local divers -- with the opportunity to sell more training/gear in the future. It's a good PR opportunity for the dive shop, too.
  • Instructors/AIs/DMs get some practice working with students -- with the possibility of those students seeking more training in the future.
  • Divers with rusty OW/Rescue skills get in some good practice and might dive more often in the future.
  • The local dive community, as a whole, benefits because there are greater numbers of well-trained divers out there.
 

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.......I'm 100% with you on practicing rescue skills. I'm not so sure that there needs to be an agency certification attached to it.

Why don't dive shops just schedule an OW Refresher/Rescue Skills Practice Day at a local dive site?...............

I'm 100% with you, FWIW.



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The suggestion to do a refresher through an agency gives a measure of standardization. In addition, people like acknowledgement for their efforts, -thus the card.
 
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A) All my PSD and responder certs have a time limit on them (usually 2 years), and for good reason. You forget, get rusty, never use the skill, somebody finds a better way, etc.......

I agree with this. Recently I noticed my BLS cert from AHA was expiring. Having a hard time finding a class, I called the local Red Cross chapter today asked if I could challenge their test. I got lucky and was able to go in today. Before I went in I quickly reviewed the ECC 2010 guidelines changes.

Maybe it's because I was post-call and missed it, or the Red Cross is doing things differently than AHA, but technically the instructor could have failed me on the first skill because it was a challenge test. Apparently they decided to reintroduce back blows before abdominal thrusts in an awake choking adult. I didn't know that.

CPR/ACLS certifications are just a hassle for me because of the nature of my job, and I thought I was keeping on top of changes. I guess I was wrong. A refresher never hurts.
 

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If you take your Rescue with NAUI you don't need the AOW prerequisite.

Also true for PADI (and other agencies), though often misinterpreted or misrepresented by dive stores wishing to make a fast buck.

I don't recall the exact wording from PADI standards. It's something like "AOW or equivilent. Equivilent is defined as at least two diving certifications with documented experience in deep diving and navigation".
 
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