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Congrats on the c-cards, where in Michigan are you at?
Get an Apeks, they have a $100 instant rebate right now. I got a whole setup with an ATX 50, ATX40 octo, and Vyper for around $1k, and thats LDS price.
 
wsugoalie:
Okay, I know there have been hundreds (if not more) of postings regarding regulators and opinions about them. I just recently became open water certified and my fiance and I are looking to buy the gear. In class, I used a Dacor Eagle regulator which was sort of heavy. My fiance used a Sherwood Brut (which he liked, but I didn't).

Anyways, we have some choices of regs included in some "student packages" being offered by the dive store. We want the regs to be suitable for cold water conditions since we live in Michigan; however, we will also be doing warm water diving. I'm looking for a reg with good breathability, lightweight, and suitable for cold waters. I'm not sure if an environmentally sealed 1st stage is necessary or not.

Here is the list the LDS gave us in the student packages. Any opinions on these particular regs would be of great help!

Thanks in advance!! :dazzler1:

1) Poseidon Odin Regulator
2) Mares Proton Ice
3) Dacor Eagle Pro DPD Regulator
4) Sherwood Blizzard
5) Mares MR12 Proton
Lets start with saying that most of the mid range and above regs of the bigger companies are good nowdays.
From the the brands you've named, I'm using the Poseidon(Jetstream/Odin) and a Mares(MR22/Abyss).
The Poseidon Jetstream is an older design reg but will still outperform many other regs esp. in depth. It gives you plenty of air but you have to suck a little harder to get it. If compared to a car, I like to compare it to a Volvo. Big, clumsy but very reliable. :wink: The replacement (Xstream) is a great reg but expensive and difficult to find someone to service them. If your LDS would service it, it would be a great choice.
Mares makes very good regs. All are solid and good performers. They get better as you get more upscale. The Proton Ice is the replacement of the Abyss and should be an excellent performer as well. I haven't tried it myself so I can't confirm it. The MR12 Proton is a good, solid midrange reg and wouldn't be my first choice in cold water. I think that now that the Mares Abyss is being discontinued, you could find one for a very decent price. They are fairly heavy though.
Many dislike Mares because they make things like the HUB and that they discontinued service for the Dacor regs made before they bought the company. It doesn't change the fact that they make excellent regs. And if you'll decide to go with Dacor, you should be fine too if you'll get yourself one of their newer regs. They will continue to support the company. They would be stupid not to do so after paying the money for it.
As for Shrewood, I don't know to much about them.
That said, I have to tell you that before I bought my regs, I tested all the regs that I was considering (Apeks, Aqualung, Poseidon, Scubapro, Beuchat and Mares). Apperantly, I wasn't so impressed with the Apeks(TX100) as other on this board because after trying it, I went and bought me the Mares and never regreted it. Dove it in warm and cold(Nova Scotia in January) water and it breathes the same regardless how deep or how cold and you'll find someone to service it regardless where in the world. I am not saying that the Apeks is a bad reg. It is excellent but not as good as many here are trying to make us believe. They are very fashionable though esp. among the followers of a certain dive philosophy and the ones that would like to be like the followers. :wink: Don't you know that everyones reg is the best? :wink:
As I said, I tested the regs I wanted and I would recommend doing it too. The regs deliver air in a different mannor and you may prefer a certain one.
It is smart to buy a reg that you could service locally or choose a brand that is very popular. It would be difficult to service certain brands abroad if something goes wrong on vacation. I would recommend sticking to the bigger brands:Mares, Aqualung, Apeks(belongs to Aqualung), and I would have recommended Scubapro if not for the cold water (Eventhough some of their diaphragm first stages aren't that bad in cold water)
Have you considered buying online? With two sets of gear, it could make a huge difference.
 
wsugoalie:
Okay, I know there have been hundreds (if not more) of postings regarding regulators and opinions about them. I just recently became open water certified and my fiance and I are looking to buy the gear. In class, I used a Dacor Eagle regulator which was sort of heavy. My fiance used a Sherwood Brut (which he liked, but I didn't).

Anyways, we have some choices of regs included in some "student packages" being offered by the dive store. We want the regs to be suitable for cold water conditions since we live in Michigan; however, we will also be doing warm water diving. I'm looking for a reg with good breathability, lightweight, and suitable for cold waters. I'm not sure if an environmentally sealed 1st stage is necessary or not.

Here is the list the LDS gave us in the student packages. Any opinions on these particular regs would be of great help!

Thanks in advance!! :dazzler1:

1) Poseidon Odin Regulator
2) Mares Proton Ice
3) Dacor Eagle Pro DPD Regulator
4) Sherwood Blizzard
5) Mares MR12 Proton
I used poseidon Regs for many years, I still have My odins and Thor (cyclon for the rest of the world). I prefer the thor over any other reg I have used.. The new Poseidon xtreme series although I dont own any breath better than any reg i have ever used hands down. (and are extremely rugged and easy to service)

The mares regs are good med performance regs and are pretty solid and easy to repair.

The sherwood regs are rugged low end regs.. Used alot by resorts because they are "a" cheap and "B" easy to service.. T"c" durable, but definately not kknow for breathing characteristics.

The apeks regs breathe well and are fairly easy to service. My favorite would be the TX50 which I do own several of..

Another choice to look at atre the ATomic regs.. These breathe better than most and their performance beats most regs to some serious depths..

Not too long ago I did some subjective testing of an atomic, apeks and poseidon.. In shallow depts the atomic was the most confortable to breathe, at 200fsw the atomic and apeks were about the same, but the poseidon was noticibly easier to breathe. I didn't try any deeper than that but my guess is that the apeks regs will eventually outperform the atomic regs (because they use an over balanced 1st stage) but still wount match the gas availablity of the Xtreme.
 
ShakaZulu:
Please close this thread after this post............Save yourself the pain and get the APEKS ATX50. Enjoy the diving.

I realize that you just got this reg, and I do realize that it is great, but there are other regson the shelf and believe it or not it is not ideally suited for every diver, especially newer divers who are frequently overwhelmed with the plethera or knobs and dials.

wsugoalie, from the options that you presented I would go with a sherwood blizzard. It is economical practical and easy to use. They have a decent warranty and it will treat you better than the brut.
As you can see everything on this board turns into Apeks no matter what you originally asked about. try not to get frustrated. Although the Apeks are great regs, I used a blizzard before I bought mine and never had any problems with it. It will also grow with you until you find yourself very deep. Good luck
 
Thanks so much. Especially being new divers and planning to go with a choice the LDS offers, I really appreciate the information regarding the choice of regs that we have. Those of you who took time to type up very informative responses are awesome. (Not that the rest of you are not awesome :wink: )

Anyways, Thanks again and keep the opinions coming!
 
padiscubapro:
I used poseidon Regs for many years, I still have My odins and Thor (cyclon for the rest of the world). I prefer the thor over any other reg I have used.. The new Poseidon xtreme series although I dont own any breath better than any reg i have ever used hands down. (and are extremely rugged and easy to service)

The mares regs are good med performance regs and are pretty solid and easy to repair.

The sherwood regs are rugged low end regs.. Used alot by resorts because they are "a" cheap and "B" easy to service.. T"c" durable, but definately not kknow for breathing characteristics.

The apeks regs breathe well and are fairly easy to service. My favorite would be the TX50 which I do own several of..

Another choice to look at atre the ATomic regs.. These breathe better than most and their performance beats most regs to some serious depths..

Not too long ago I did some subjective testing of an atomic, apeks and poseidon.. In shallow depts the atomic was the most confortable to breathe, at 200fsw the atomic and apeks were about the same, but the poseidon was noticibly easier to breathe. I didn't try any deeper than that but my guess is that the apeks regs will eventually outperform the atomic regs (because they use an over balanced 1st stage) but still wount match the gas availablity of the Xtreme.
Good post except that I'd disagree on the Mares being med performance reg.
http://www.mares.com/NS_NewsView.asp?news=55
 
I use a MARES Nikos I got it for free of a friend of mine, it have been used for a few years so I cant read the numbers on the first stage but it has 4 hoses and it works great! I have been to 60 meters with it all OK and only when we passed 50 it started to get hard to breath of it! My buddy said it might needed a service. Is it bad if the guage is jumping up and down when inhaling and exhaling fast? also sometimes when deep and using the inflator button it makes breathing harder! Anyone know why?

I would for definate by MARES again!!
 
I´m using the scuba Pro Mk25T... with the s600...Superb
 
wsugoalie:
Okay, I know there have been hundreds (if not more) of postings regarding regulators and opinions about them. I just recently became open water certified and my fiance and I are looking to buy the gear. In class, I used a Dacor Eagle regulator which was sort of heavy. My fiance used a Sherwood Brut (which he liked, but I didn't).

Anyways, we have some choices of regs included in some "student packages" being offered by the dive store. We want the regs to be suitable for cold water conditions since we live in Michigan; however, we will also be doing warm water diving. I'm looking for a reg with good breathability, lightweight, and suitable for cold waters. I'm not sure if an environmentally sealed 1st stage is necessary or not.

Here is the list the LDS gave us in the student packages. Any opinions on these particular regs would be of great help!

Thanks in advance!! :dazzler1:

1) Poseidon Odin Regulator
2) Mares Proton Ice
3) Dacor Eagle Pro DPD Regulator
4) Sherwood Blizzard
5) Mares MR12 Proton

If I had to pick out of that list I'd take the Mares Proton Ice

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wsugoalie:
1) Poseidon Odin Regulator
2) Mares Proton Ice
3) Dacor Eagle Pro DPD Regulator
4) Sherwood Blizzard
5) Mares MR12 Proton

From the list, I'll choose the Mares Proton Ice. Been using it and it's an excellent reg. Breaths easy at all depths that I have gone to within my training, easy to maintain, light. The only qualm I have is that the soft hose bends/kinks too easily.

I disagree to the comment that Mares are good med perf regs. Unless you can justify this statement with solid evidences, there is no point to claiming sweeping judgements.

Apeks makes good regs. So does Mares, Dacor, Poseidon. It's best for one to try the reg and buy the one you like best.

BUT most importantly, buy a reg that is easily serviced near where you live in. There is no point buying a reg to have a huge headache trying to find spares for the reg.

I have no experience with Sherwood, hence, am not commenting on it.
 

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