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Reconsidering Deep Air?

Discussion in 'Technical Diving' started by CAPTAIN SINBAD, Mar 23, 2021.

  1. CAPTAIN SINBAD

    CAPTAIN SINBAD Divemaster Candidate

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    Link to a great recent discussion with Dr. Simon Mitchell.



    In the light of the above, have your own views of deep air / extended range diving evolved, or do you believe that deep air dives to 187 feet are OK as long as you keep your exertion levels and work of breathing in control?
     
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  2. kelemvor

    kelemvor Big Fleshy Monster ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Your video doesn't work.

    IMO Deep air is a mistake. Use helium beyond 130. Rather, that's what I would do. You do whatchalyke.
     
  3. grf88

    grf88 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Works for me.
    Video that is.
     
  4. grantctobin

    grantctobin ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    No.
     
  5. helodriver87

    helodriver87 DIR Practitioner

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    Planning a dive with that kind of gas density and narcotic potential and using exertion control as risk mitigation is like planning an overhead dive with an overly aggressive gas plan and using "not silting it up" as mitigation.
     
  6. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I occasionally dive air or lean nitrox to deeper than 130 feet. I dive nowhere near the air MOD
     
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  7. evandroairton

    evandroairton Instructor, Scuba

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    I can't see a point for not using a helium mix, if available, deeper than 45 metres.
    Have done 60 metres on air before, it was crystal clear warm water, but, wouldn't do again, specially on the far from ideal conditions we have here at brazilian southeast region.
    Specially on CCR
     
  8. mac64

    mac64 Contributor

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    Personally I don’t have a problem diving deep on air. And the video confirmed for me that for some people gas density is not a problem but is for others. Nothing new. It’s a personal decision.
     
  9. Tracy

    Tracy Tech Instructor / Captain ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Not at all. I see no reason to consider deep air in a place with helium readily accessible.
    I have been there and done that, I now have the knowledge to not make the same mistakes again.
     
  10. Wibble

    Wibble Contributor

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    Rebreathers make all the difference. Gas bills of well over $100 are reduced to $10. Helium can be used for almost every dive and definitely deeper than 30m / 100'.
     
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