? re buying/selling used regulators.

Please register or login

Welcome to ScubaBoard, the world's largest scuba diving community. Registration is not required to read the forums, but we encourage you to join. Joining has its benefits and enables you to participate in the discussions.

Benefits of registering include

  • Ability to post and comment on topics and discussions.
  • A Free photo gallery to share your dive photos with the world.
  • You can make this box go away

Joining is quick and easy. Log in or Register now!

I have a lot of respect for the old timers of sports... Sam is one of them...

But... and a BIG BUT, Rebuilding regulators is FAR from rocket science... I can think of hundreds of rebuilding jobs that take far more skill and knowledge then scuba reg's.. Just knowing how to set the right size rivet in the right sized and spaced hole in the control surface of a aircraft is more critical ... Rebuilding a automatic transmission takes far more skill and knowledge...

And we freely ask & give advice to others and really care about what we do... I feel good when I let a diver use a regulator that I rebuilt and when we get out of the water, He goes on and on about how great that 40 year old reg breathed at 130' and ask's if I could find him some on Ebay...

So SAM, Sit back and enjoy a shot of rum and tell us stores of the old days... We love to hear them.. And thank you for your time in making this sport what it is today...

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays....

Jim...
 
I looked up servicing , This is what we are doing .... And the one I would use in court.. I'm that funny of a guy.. I told a judge at a traffic hearing when he was ruling against me at every step and would not let the hearing be fair.. " Judge, You want the truth or you going to sit there like a clown in this kangaroo court " ... The court room started LOL... Not him... :p

Urban Dictionary: servicing
Urban Dictionary: servicing
Nov 8, 2017 - The act of pleasuring your partner sexually with little to no reciprocation. All attention and pleasure is devoted to the person being serviced, as opposed to it being more of a give/take situation.

:rofl3: We do this to the reg's and spouses to get more Regulators and keep them out of the dive gear storage area...

Jim...
 
Last edited:
If possible I would love to mix and match when buying equipment. In reality most of my used gear purchases are whatever reg sets I can find and the spare parts end up distributed to other like-minded divers. (the ones I don't keep for myself)

If ever I sold a reg it would be as is with a "don't sue me" disclaimer even though I know limiting liability is nearly impossible.

Due to shipping logistics I try to buy bulk lots of regs. There's always a buddy or the new divers wanting to borrow gear and I'm constantly short supplied. Hoses are expensive and expensive to ship, having some old ones included in a sale is always appreciated.

Regards,
Cameron
 
If ever I sold a reg it would be as is with a "don't sue me" disclaimer even though I know limiting liability is nearly impossible.
Cameron,
I suppose it would be prudent and applicable for me to clarify that the SP and Mares set I brought you weeks ago both come functional but without warranty,
"As is", as it were.
In fact, they are probably crap and I advise you not to dive with them.
You should throw them away.
Be sure to destroy them before disposal as they are dangerous.
Oh, and those fins may attract sharks and/or cause cramps.

Sarcastically, Kevin
 
Cameron,
I suppose it would be prudent and applicable for me to clarify that the SP and Mares set I brought you weeks ago both come functional but without warranty,
"As is", as it were.
In fact, they are probably crap and I advise you not to dive with them.
You should throw them away.
Be sure to destroy them before disposal as they are dangerous.
Oh, and those fins may attract sharks and/or cause cramps.

Sarcastically, Kevin

---Satire, humor, funny business ---
I assume full responsibility, acknowledging merely touching a used piece of life support can be fatal. Forced against your will I seized possession. The only sane response is to hire a specialist to depose of them as quickly as possible. Horrifyingly dangerous condition. Did you see they were made of METAL, not dependable modern plastic? A sure sign of impending doom.

Cheers!
Cameron
 
@couv stated I'm an earlier response

"....My scuba equipment training was OJT in the few dive shops I was employed. I helped to maintain and service our rental and training equipment. The factory trained technicians taught me how to service regulators. In turn, I showed (some of) them how to properly use a torque wrench, lubricate o-rings correctly, polish out minor defects the factory missed on a significant surface, and to diagnose problems-not just throw parts at them.

I know none of this would hold up in court; but the next time you buy a used regulator set for yourself or a family member, do you want one rebuilt by a zit faced two day wonder with a certificate of completion, or someone who truly understands how they work?"

My response
".....Many years ago under the direction of Tommy Thomson US Divers created an in house week long 40 hour equipment repair course which was FREE to shop owners and industry leaders- I qualified under the later category.

The late Jim Hagadorn, who went to the big reef in the sky early this year while diving for Abs in NorCal was the supervisor of US Diver repair department as well as the full time instructor for the course.
I repeated the course on three separate occasions , each time for an update on the latest US Divers equipment and to overhaul my families and class regulators" .

Comment
Apparently you would be classified as OJT trained and I as professionally trained. All would possibly be considered professional, as a SCUBA repairman by the judges, attorneys, and possibly the jury members. The judges and attorneys are professionals with many years of education and professional training I seriously doubt if they would accept @oldschoolto definition from the urban dictionary. (by the way @oldschoolto thanks for the offer of rum ! but I do not touch alcohol - but I know your heart was in the correct place for the offer)

Rather they utilize a dictionary known as "Blacks Law dictionary," commonly referred to as "Blacks" for almost all their definitions. I no longer have a Blacks by I do have three neighbors who are attorneys and one loaned me their copy.

The following is a much abridged definitions of terms directly from Blacks that would or could possibly be applicable to describing the activity of reworking regulators or dive equipment

ON THE JOB TRAINING (OJT)
Training provided to inexperienced employees during the initial stages of employment. This is usually delivered by a professional trainer or an experienced employee, and typically consists of "hands-on" training.
If supported by classroom teaching, the classroom portion is considered "off the job" training.

EXPERIENCE
1. Time spent learning a skill or field of knowledge. Superior understanding or mastery gained by actual practice acquired over months or years.

RESTORATION
The return of equipment to operational state after repairs.

REPAIR
1) The restoration of a damaged, broken or failed device to return it to its original intent.
2. The action that needs to be performed so a product can fulfill its intentions and purposes.

OVERHAULING

1) To examine thoroughly and make any needed repairs:...

2. To revise extensively....

3. The restoration of an item to a completely serviceable condition as prescribed by maintenance serviceability standards.

RECONDITIONING
Re-calibrating and servicing equipment to bring it back to near new or original operational level. (Reconditioned goods are often of later models and usually in better condition than refurbished goods.)

I was informed that you possibly are best protected by the last defintion of "reconditioning" with possibly a few other terms included- but chose your terms and definitions wisely .

It is rather apparent that you have a very loyal following and that is great ! However, and a big however, if they were using one of your rebuilt regulators and had a traumatic event that resulted disability or was fatal the grieving widow and her children do not have the loyalty and admiration and can and often do seek legal recourse and a huge monetary settlement for their loss of a loved one. They are the ones you need protection in the form of proper legalese phrases

Hopefully this post has expanded your and others horizons just a tad and you will include verbiage that offers a certain amount of legal protection when you offer equipment for sale.

Warmest regards from one who cares about you and yours --
and the past present and future of diving

Sam
 
Last edited:
Sam,
So Couv learned to repair regs with a solid foundation in engineering principles, an understanding of how the components function, and a good bit of experience.
Q: You and those you feel are qualified received “bonafide” classroom training for a whole week from these industry giants. And where might I ask did they learn it?
A: Might it have been from some engineers with solid foundation in the governing principles and an understanding of how the components work? Just sayin’....
No verbiage or definitions will do anyone a bit of good in the situation you describe. If one definition doesn’t suit a litigators purpose they will contort it or find another. A repair technician “professionally” servicing equipment is probably at greater risk for a successful lawsuit than a “tinkerer” selling reconditioned antiquities online. My humble opinion.
 
Maybe things are different in my neck of the woods but when I can’t fix something I seek out the farm boy with a natural mechanical inclination and Year’s of experience “making things work” rather than taking it to a dealer or “professional” who charges a service fee just to tell me the broken whatever I brought in is indeed broken.
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/perdix-ai/

Back
Top Bottom