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Question, vintage LP72 tank

Discussion in 'Vintage Equipment Diving' started by rnln, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. happy-diver

    happy-diver Skindiver Just feelin it

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    couv it's only 6 kilos, well, it sounds a lot less than 13lbs
    and even more less than the complete rig at about 20lbs
    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    But with that and my 6'4” 250lb bulk at some 33feet
    I'm hovering inches above what I'm hovering above
    with a steel 120, Mk10 109 wearing shirt and shorts

    with almost one cup of air in the wing.


    Doing It Therapeutically with No5 shot

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    you can put in bigger balls for less weight
    and or you finish at 3/4 and squirt in foam


    I might check the sealed bakpak buoyancy
     
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  2. rnln

    rnln Nassau Grouper

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    Lowviz, I don't have an AL80. Sorry that I wasn't clear on the previous question. What I meant was if I should keep this tank or let it go and get a good used AL80. An AL80 is fairly cheap around here... I know people were talking about the differences between these 2 tanks multiple times, buoyancy and weight vs air capacity, but I have no experience so I can't tell how much important those are to weight in.
     
  3. rnln

    rnln Nassau Grouper

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    @happy-diver, seeing your backpack in the bucket gave me an idea of rigging up my backpack to carry my freediving gears for use when going up and down the cliff, not sure how yet.
     
  4. rnln

    rnln Nassau Grouper

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    May I ask what reason made you sold it after spending money, time, and effort restoring it?
     
  5. rnln

    rnln Nassau Grouper

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    Thanks Jale,
    Regarding those small flash rust spots someone mentioned above, would you think it will get bad enough to be a concern... such as exploding, bursting off, etc?
     
  6. jale

    jale Barracuda

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    Hi,
    If it passes hydro, it would be fine. I have a few of these (metric 10L in fact) and they don't look "nice" but it is the inside that matters.
    You are not going to get much by selling it. So remove the valve, have a look inside and see how it is. Even if it has rust, it is removable. A steel tanks from this period would last longer than a new alu tank.
    I heard that hydro in your part of the world is quite cheap, so sent it to test; it is a cheap bet :)
     
  7. Eric Sedletzky

    Eric Sedletzky Great White

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    The 72
     
  8. lowviz

    lowviz Solo Diver ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Yes, these factors come into play when one considers ownership. Otherwise, when renting, one just dives what one gets.

    Maybe read this first, it is a reasonably good overview: Steel or Aluminum Scuba Tanks: Which One Should You Get? - AquaViews

    Yeah.
     
  9. couv

    couv Instructor, Scuba

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    Triple yeah. Especially as you already own it. But why not dive it, rent an Al 80 and judge for yourself?

    Here is my take on the 72 vs the Al80 (I'm going off memory, so I welcome any corrections.)
    The 80 only holds about 6 cu feet more than a 72 ( 77 vs 71)
    The 80 weighs more than a 72-about 31 lbs vs 29 lbs
    The 80 is positively buoyant at the end of a dive-about 4 lbs compared to a neutral 72. Therefore, you are swimming with 6 more pounds of mass (not to mention carrying it to and from the car and the boat or shore) for a measly 6 cu ft of gas. So some of the extra gas will be used up just from having to swim with more mass. Speaking of swimming, for me the 72 just "swims" better-but I'm only 5'8" and on the well-fed side.
     
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  10. W W Meixner

    W W Meixner Rebreather Pilot

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    Couv...

    When the triples in the photo came into our shop in pieces...I took the time to completely restore everything and take the completed set home...

    As far as this cylinder is concerned...if it came to me with a partner/bands/manifold...I would likely do the same...when a cylinder like this came into the shop with valve/plastic BP/harness...it had usually been sitting in an unheated boathouse for thirty years...it was drained/disassembled/scrapped...

    In the seven years I was in the shop post retirement...we never once had anyone come into the shop to have one of these filled...I suppose there is a market...I don't know why...if this came into the shop...at the same time a prospective buyer showed up...I'd have let the cylinder/valve/BP/harness go for $10...and then likely find a reason to scrap it if the buyer wanted it serviced...

    We charged $50. for re-hydro/$30. for annual VIP/$50 for annual VIP with 02 clean...any combination is worth more than this cylinder is worth...especially when you consider new low cost cylinder/valve prices from shops like DGX...

    I'm pointing this one in the direction of the scrap pile...vintage....doesn't necessarily mean $...or...$$$$...

    W.M...

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