Question on Form - How many logged dives since certified?

[Lorenzoid]

LOL. Don't try and get a job with an insurance company!

It's a signed form. The diver is asserting they have done that many dives. I think it holds water legally.

 

[tridacna]

It's a signed form. The diver is asserting they have done that many dives. I think it holds water legally.

You'd still have a tough time in court after the "accident".

 

[Lorenzoid]

You'd still have a tough time in court after the "accident".

Respectfully disagree. I believe the signed statement of the diver who had the accident that he had logged X dives, meaning in good faith that he had done X dives, would be more dispositive than an argument over the definition of "logged."

 

[tridacna]

Respectfully disagree. I believe the signed statement of the diver who had the accident that he had logged X dives, meaning in good faith that he had done X dives, would be more dispositive than an argument over the definition of "logged."

My wife is a PI attorney. I asked her. She relishes the thought of suing an operator who relied solely on that number when taking a customer to an advanced diving site without further questions.

 

[Lorenzoid]

My wife is a PI attorney. I asked her. She relishes the thought of suing an operator who relied solely on that number when taking a customer to an advanced diving site without further questions.

I'll see her in court!

 

[ggunn]

My wife is a PI attorney. I asked her. She relishes the thought of suing an operator who relied solely on that number when taking a customer to an advanced diving site without further questions.

IANAL, but I don't see where a log book with a bunch of handwritten entries would make any difference; that would be very easy to fake. I think that "without further questions" is significant, as would be the practice I know most reputable ops on Cozumel have of taking a diver who is unknown to them out on easy dives to see how they handle themselves in the water before haring off with them to Punta Sur or Maracaibo.

It's kinda like the AOW vs OW question. I have been diving on an OW cert since 1994; I think I qualify as "advanced" within my comfort zone of experience, much moreso than someone who went straight to AOW out of their OW class, and I am confident that I could demonstrate that to any dive op that doesn't know me, logbook (lack of it) and AOW cert (likewise) notwithstanding.

 

[tridacna]

IANAL, but I don't see where a log book with a bunch of handwritten entries would make any difference; that would be very easy to fake. I think that "without further questions" is significant, as would be the practice I know most reputable ops on Cozumel have of taking a diver who is unknown to them out on easy dives to see how they handle themselves in the water before haring off with them to Punta Sur or Maracaibo.

It's kinda like the AOW vs OW question. I have been diving on an OW cert since 1994; I think I qualify as "advanced" within my comfort zone of experience, much moreso than someone who went straight to AOW out of their OW class, and I am confident that I could demonstrate that to any dive op that doesn't know me, logbook (lack of it) and AOW cert (likewise) notwithstanding.

Not a log book question. Rather stating that you have 500 dives and on that basis taking the diver on an advanced dive.

 

[tridacna]

I'll see her in court!

You a defense or plaintiff’s attorney? I think I know…

 

[Miyaru]

I don't care about the number of dives a customer writes down. Besides, in many countries, checkdives are mandatory by law.
So first dive, descend to safety stop depth, flood and clear your mask, give me an ok sign. Once that has happened, I know if that diver has 10 / 100 / 1000 hours of underwater experience.

A logbook or c-card for fills?
I check if the tank has a valid hydro and if the valve and neck have the same thread. What you do with the full tank after you walk out the shop is totally up to you.

I can understand the c-card but a logbook? Do you get better/more/cooled air when you passed 100 logged dives?

 

[Bob DBF]

I can understand the c-card but a logbook?

I never could understand needing a C-card, but I'm old.