Primary donate in UK ice-cold water

[BoltSnap]

free one-day workshop on how to use it

I am truly curious on what you teach in a "one-day" workshop on the matter? A whole day on this skill/technique?

 

[DiveLikeAMuppet]

How do you do this for your secondary octo, as it will be on your chest area - somewhere well below your chin and your primary?

I was thinking of attaching the octo to the chest attachment point with a panic hook like what they use in sidemount long hose, so a bolt snap + cable tie + a small o-ring. Whoever in need of it could grab and strip it from the donor's chest and replacement of these would be minimal unless your buddy runs out of their gas every dive.

Just have the octo in the normal bungee loop/attachment under your neck? You might need to add some sort of 90 degree angle adaptor or the hose and reg would kink if you run the octo hose under your shoulder.

Or you know, don't dive with muppets who can't understand primary donate?

I recently did a dive and had to buddy with a diver unfamiliar with the primary donate and I tried to repeat the <5-minute skill drill I learnt from the previous club to this new buddy. They did not listen to my word at all and kept talking with other divers about how weird and disgusting I was.

I've seen pretty some pretty disgusting behaviours on the boats but usually we don't gossip when the diver in question is around... I'm afraid to ask but - what did you do? Outside of primary donate being Covid-unsafe?

 

[Ontwreckdiver]

How do you do this for your secondary octo, as it will be on your chest area - somewhere well below your chin and your primary?

I was thinking of attaching the octo to the chest attachment point with a panic hook like what they use in sidemount long hose, so a bolt snap + cable tie + a small o-ring. Whoever in need of it could grab and strip it from the donor's chest and replacement of these would be minimal unless your buddy runs out of their gas every dive.

Yes, you put the necklace around your neck and it hangs below your chin. The out of air diver can grab it from the necklace or if they grab your primary, you just pull your octo out of thenecklace and use it.

 

[Umuntu]

They did not listen to my word at all and kept talking with other divers about how weird and disgusting I was.

I just noticed that you are in China. Having lived there, and dived with many Chinese divers across Asia, there’s a greater sensitivity to personal hygiene than in the West.

One of the diving shops I dived with in Thailand, who specialised in the Chinese market because of language abilities, would give every diver in the group a new mouthpiece still in a sealed bag, because customers didn’t want to use a mouthpiece that had been in someone else’s mouth.

Whatever we or others may think of sea water cleansing the germs, if your insta-buddy was Chinese and unfamiliar with primary donate, they wound likely consider it to be unhygienic and disgusting.

They wouldn’t want to share your chopsticks for hygiene reasons, why would they want to share your mouthpiece that has just been in your mouth ?

 

[grantmac]

I just noticed that you are in China. Having lived there, and dived with many Chinese divers across Asia, there’s a greater sensitivity to personal hygiene than in the West.

One of the diving shops I dived with in Thailand, who specialised in the Chinese market because of language abilities, would give every diver in the group a new mouthpiece still in a sealed bag, because customers didn’t want to use a mouthpiece that had been in someone else’s mouth.

Whatever we or others may think of sea water cleansing the germs, if your insta-buddy was Chinese and unfamiliar with primary donate, they wound likely consider it to be unhygienic and disgusting.

They wouldn’t want to share your chopsticks for hygiene reasons, why would they want to share your mouthpiece that has just been in your mouth ?

Because they want to live? Maybe just incentive to watch their SPG.

 

[Wibble]

I just noticed that you are in China. Having lived there, and dived with many Chinese divers across Asia, there’s a greater sensitivity to personal hygiene than in the West.

Interesting. Until they spit on the floor in the middle of a meeting. It was like an oyster on the carpet. Will never be able to un-remember that one.

 

[PfcAJ]

Interesting. Until they spit on the floor in the middle of a meeting. It was like an oyster on the carpet. Will never be able to un-remember that one.

Yeah dude, I lived in China for a year and your description is more in-line with my experience than Umuntu’s.

 

[BoltSnap]

They wouldn’t want to share your chopsticks for hygiene reasons, why would they want to share your mouthpiece that has just been in your mouth ?

I wouldn't want to share or rent somebody else's underwear or toothbrush either.

 

[Celt]

Any regulator donating system will work between 2 divers who have practiced it. Divers managed to buddy breath with twin hose single stage regs. All that goes out the window when an inexperienced, out of air diver comes to you who believes he’s going to drown if he doesn’t get the reg stuck in your face. If you’re deep you have 2 choices, get away or tackle him. Get a reg in his mouth and breathing first, then think about getting yourself and them to the surface. P.S. Don’t over purge a free reg, it’ll free flow in very cold water, put your thumb in the mouth piece and purge through the exhaust valve to clear.

 

[Umuntu]

Interesting. Until they spit on the floor in the middle of a meeting. It was like an oyster on the carpet. Will never be able to un-remember that one.

I recall being in a business meeting in Dallas a few years ago where a senior executive of a Texas financial services company was chewing tobacco during the meeting — he had two water glasses in front of him, one with water to keep his mouth moist, and the other he would use as his “spittoon”. All day! I will never be able to unremember that.

I wish your comment had not triggered that memory for me.

In the five years I spent in China, I didn’t encounter anyone spitting, either publicly or in private.

I suppose some people have disgusting personal habits everywhere.