Possible to convert Oceanic Zeo to recreational long hose configuration?

[bubblealgae]

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to convert Oceanic FDX + Zeo setup to a GUI-type modified long hose/primary donation setup? My two sons are both on these setups and I like the tidiness of it. I was thinking a 40 inch primary and a 22 inch backup on a necklace, sort of like these:

Streamlined OW

I ordered appropriate hoses and a 110 degree swivel, but the Zeo inline ball swivel seemed impossible to replace with a standard screw-together swivel. Rather than break anything trying to force things to fit, I thought I'd ask around. Thanks and sorry if this is a dumb question.

 

[BoltSnap]

I find that 40" hose is a little too short and is tugging on my mouth. I use either a 42" or a 5ft hose for primary and 24" for the backup.

 

[bubblealgae]

Thank you for your reply and insight. Are you particularly tall? Do you have any insight as to the difficulty swapping the Oceanic regulator ball swivel with an off-the-shelf 110 degree angled adapter? I added the 110s to my sons' Edge reg setup very easily.

 

[BoltSnap]

Are you particularly tall?

No, average height but with a manly prosperous size belly

Do you have any insight as to the difficulty swapping the Oceanic regulator ball swivel with an off-the-shelf 110 degree angled adapter?

No, I don't have first hand experience with this regulator at all. Perhaps if you take a picture of the ball swivel and show it here (I don't think that it should be a problem to replace it with the 110 deg adapter however).

 

[tursiops]

I have no problem with the primary, so long as there is a 90 or 110 swivel on it. I am short, 165 cm. Be sure and put a boltsnap on it so it can be clipped off when not in use, otherwise it drags on the ground.

 

[Alaskan Scuba Dude]

 

[SlugLife]

I ordered appropriate hoses and a 110 degree swivel, but the Zeo inline ball swivel seemed impossible to replace with a standard screw-together swivel. Rather than break anything trying to force things to fit, I thought I'd ask around. Thanks and sorry if this is a dumb question.

I have no experience with this specific regulator. I'd be a little surprised if you couldn't remove the swivel, you probably just need to find the right point to place the wrench. Those swivel-ball-joints can be a little confusing at times, and even I've had a "how the fk do I remove this thing" moment to a swivel-joint I installed myself.

One option might be to look around for a service-manual for that regulator, or instructions for DIY servicing of that 2nd stage.

It's also possible the service-tech over-tightened that ball-joint. The "correct" tightness of most LP hoses is hand-tight, then with a tool, a medium-light force just enough to make it not easy come apart by hand. Too loose and the hose can come undone underwater, which is a scary experience! (yeah.... happened to me once) Too tight and you can damage the regulator, hose, or swivel.

 

[SlugLife]

Post pictures of the regulator and swivel, maybe we can visually see what's going on.

 

[lexvil]

The swivel is likely removable but they may not have parts available to switch to a standard hose, I just dont know.

40” under arm should work just fine for most people, if you can’t switch that swivel hose out just shop around for a good generic second stage like a HOG or Deep 6.

 

[BoltSnap]

The swivel is likely removable but they may not have parts available to switch to a standard hose, I just dont know.

40” under arm should work just fine for most people, if you can’t switch that swivel hose out just shop around for a good generic second stage like a HOG or Deep 6.

I have a suspicion that the ball joint swivel maybe permanently attached to the hose and may need a jam nut for the second stage just like Atomic regulators do but I don't know for certain until I see pictures of the second stage and the hose.