Padi To Naui Crossover

[cerich]

In response to you original question, technically, yes you can go straight to AI.

Prerequisites:
Certification as NAUI Master Scuba Diver and NAUI Scuba Rescue Diver or their eqivalent. Divers with evidence of equivalent training and experience may be enrolled provided they pass the NAUI Master and Rescue Scuba Diver written examination with minimum scores of at least 75% on each. NAUI S&P Rev.1-04 Pg. 2.77

However, one thing you have to understand about NAUI is that our standards are minimums only. Instructors may require higher standards and will be fully backed by NAUI. So, yes the standards say it is possible, but if your instructor requires that you do the NAUI Master Diver Course, then that is what you must do.

Provided that the divers qualificatiosn are from a recognized agency as listed in the back of NAUI Standards.

By the way if the OP isn't being used to meet ratios and isn't doing weght checks in the water (any other way to do them??) and isn't being charged with supervising/assisting students at any point it wouldn't be breaking standards, he/she is just an extra back moving stuff for the instructor. If the OP is at ANY point being told to watch the student, do any skills with students, explain stuff to students then it would be breaking standards.

Regardless of "standards" being broken, in the event of an accident the instructor would be hard pressed to defend having a "unqualified" assistant of any ilk/capacity and it would make legal defense difficult.



Persons who have completed a NAUI Training Assistant specialty are only for use as assistants but not for ratios

Best,

Chris

NAUI Course Director, NAUI Rep.

 

[spankey]

even if you have to start at Naui OW, I would say go for it and forget Padi



padi = punk's always ... ignorant

 

[Thalassamania]

The NAUI Master Diver course was designed for those who wanted the highest level of sports diver certification possible without any of the teaching responsibilities. The level of knowledge expected is identical to what is expected of a NAUI Instructor, sans teaching theory and technique. This contrasts with the PADI Master Diver course, which is a collection of specialty courses that can approach the same level as the NAUI program when summed up, or that may mean nothing at all, depending on the specialties taken.

 

[Sideband]

Persons who have completed a NAUI Training Assistant specialty are only for use in confined water, not open water.

Chris

NAUI Course Director, NAUI Rep.

I disagree with that. Where are we supposed to be leading these 2 students on their excursions if not at OW? Read that standard again, I will as well, but if I remember correctly the description of what a TA can do is almost identical to an AI except for ratios. I remember nothing at all about confined water only.

Joe

 

[cerich]

I disagree with that. Where are we supposed to be leading these 2 students on their excursions if not at OW? Read that standard again, I will as well, but if I remember correctly the description of what a TA can do is almost identical to an AI except for ratios. I remember nothing at all about confined water only.

Joe

You should disagree, I was wrong. I violated my own rule of looking a standard up before posting... I was also wrong on the PREP required for AI to attend ITC/ITP. The recommendation is a AI do DM and a PREP prior and a DM do a Prep but not a requirement.

I need more coffee before I post..

Also want to thank RENPIRATE who sent me a PM to point it out as well.

 

[Thalassamania]

You should disagree, I was wrong. I violated my own rule of looking a standard up before posting... I was also wrong on the PREP required for AI to attend ITC/ITP. The recommendation is a AI do DM and a PREP prior and a DM do a Prep but not a requirement.

Which speaks to the rather different view that NAUI holds with repect to AI vs. DM.

 

[cerich]

Which speaks to the rather different view that NAUI holds with repect to AI vs. DM.

I've never taught a AI course, just a LONG Divemaster course....

 

[renpirate]

Which speaks to the rather different view that NAUI holds with repect to AI vs. DM.

True, but one differentiating factor is that a NAUI AI must have already passed at the very least the NAUI Master Diver Test and demonstrated demonstration quality skills. Since the NAUI Master Diver has much higher standards than the PADI Master Diver, it can reasonably be asserted that a NAUI AI is comparable in skills to a PADI DM.

However, one difference is that an NAUI AI assissts under the direct supervision of an active status instructor as oppossed to a DM who plans and leads dives of qualified divers with no supervision. So, in some respects it is comparing apples to oranges.

Edit- Hmmm, my whole spiel was already posted. There is a lot of information flying around this thread, sorry for the redundancy-Edit

 

[tedwhiteva]

The NAUI Master Diver course was designed for those who wanted the highest level of sports diver certification possible without any of the teaching responsibilities. The level of knowledge expected is identical to what is expected of a NAUI Instructor, sans teaching theory and technique. This contrasts with the PADI Master Diver course, which is a collection of specialty courses that can approach the same level as the NAUI program when summed up, or that may mean nothing at all, depending on the specialties taken.

This is exactly right - the NAUI Master Diver is expected to have demonstration quality skills upon completion, and the Master Diver exam is tougher than the DM exam on diving therory and practices - by a factor of 5.

 

[TeddyDiver]

What on earth are you talking about?

Frogs They do co-op, in Japan:blinking: (NASDS,NAUI,PADI,SSI)

Seriously.
The original question was, can he start AI course or not? I said yes. Am I wrong?

Edit:http://www.naui.com/training_progression.php