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I don't personally have a problem with a women who wants to cover herself head to toe, it is those who want to force the rest of the women in the world to do so that I have a problem with.

No, I don't want to gas all Muslims. I would prefer to invite them to my kitchen table for a talk about our differences. Only problem is, a small minority would show up with a knife & try to behead me. Therefore I keep the 44Mag in my lap during such discussions.
 
underwater daphne:
why do i suddenly feel sick? islamo fascists??
so your only and our only enemies are moslem extremists???

being a moslem extremist doesn't mean you want to kill ppl. Ed. note:...although most of them seem to want to and do so on A regular basis...) and some ppl actually like being covered from head to foot. it's a part of their belief and culture. not all of them want to be freed from who they are.


beslan? do you know how the russians have been treating them for many years? (Ed. note:---So, in your view it was okay for them to blast all of those children to bits and shoot them down like dogs, Daphne??? Are you as insane as the terrorists???)



what message would that be? your solution? gas all moslems? will that make you feel better? (Ed. note:---No, but shooting Islamic terrorists before they get to us would definitely make me feel better and safer!!!!)

what message are you sending with your bombs, bullets, torture etc?


What, exactly, would you like me to call them, Daphne, poor misunderstood innocents? I am sorry that we are giving these poor, misunderstood wretches such a hard time!!!

LMAO :usa:
 
scubafool:
I don't personally have a problem with a women who wants to cover herself head to toe, it is those who want to force the rest of the women in the world to do so that I have a problem with.

No, I don't want to gas all Muslims. I would prefer to invite them to my kitchen table for a talk about our differences. Only problem is, a small minority would show up with a knife & try to behead me. Therefore I keep the 44Mag in my lap during such discussions.

Nicely said.

Personally, I don't care how they choose to live their lives. It's none of my business if they choose to live under a backwards regime that oppresses 50% of its population and maintains a standard of living that leaves a decent percentage of their population starving.

It's when they start driving airplanes into buildings in my backyard in order to convince me to emulate them or to punish me because I don't agree with them that I start to take issue. I feel the same way about wacko right wing religious nut jobs or left wing looney tunes in the States.
Feel free to have your opinions, just make sure that your expression of them doesn't interfere with anyone else's rights.

UW Daphne:

With regard to your comments regarding Beslan, I cannot believe that you attempting to justify and support the murder of schoolchildren and their parents because of acts purportedly perpetrated by their government.
 
underwater daphne:
(1) why do i suddenly feel sick? islamo fascists??


(2) so your only and our only enemies are moslem extremists??? being a moslem extremist doesn't mean you want to kill ppl. and some ppl actually like being covered from head to foot. it's a part of their belief and culture. not all of them want to be freed from who they are.


(3) Beslan? do you know how the Russians have been treating them for many years?


(4) what message would that be? your solution? gas all moslems? will that make you feel better?
what message are you sending with your bombs, bullets, torture etc?

Dear Daphne,

(1) What would you have me call them, Daphne? Poor, misunderstood innocents? These are the same kind of people who marched a woman into the stadium in Kabul and shot her in the head without a trial for "cultural violations".

They are Islamic, and they are dangerous fascists. "Islamo-fascist" is a term that is accurate, and more polite than most other accurate descriptions of them.

(2) No, not every single Moslem extremist wants to kill people. Most, however, seem to want to, and do so on a regular basis. Those who do not do so, definitely support those who do!

No, I agree that not every woman wants to be freed from her "burka", but an overwhelming percentage of the women in Afghanistan definitely do, just as an example!

(3) So, obviously, judging by your comment, it was just okay for the terrorists in Beslan to blast and burn those little children, and to shoot them in the back as they ran away. I have to ask: "Are you as insane as those cowardly b*****ds? Your comment makes it seem so!

(4) We have made it plain to the world, and we will continue to do so, that our war is not with Islam itself, nor with peaceful Muslims everywhere. Our war is with extremist Islamic terrorists. Our war is with the Islamo-fascists who are willing to go to any perverted end to deny others freedom!

If you, (...and you do seem so, judging by your comments...) or anyone else, are in sympathy with such scum as these, I have news for you. The most powerful country in the world is coming for all of you, and you will not win, or survive!!!!!!!!

:usa:
 
Janko:
BigJetDiver,

(1) You weren't dragged to Guantanamo Bay or held against your will for interrogation like hundreds of other INNOCENT people have been since 2001 and I wasn't blown to hell by airplanes crashing into my city of residence. It's all academic until it happens to you, so for us, hypothesizing is as real as it can get.

(2) How would you like to be taken for FBI questioning for 7 hours because you are an Arab taking photos of a large bridge in NYC? Or because you are a Pakistani young man taking photos of a university campus? (BTW, both these cases are real.) This is outrageous and saving a few lives at the expense of thousands of these innocent people is not just.

(3) America will not win this bitter "war on terror" alone - on its own, the best it can hope for is a stalemate. The US will not get any help from other progressive nations like Canada, Germany, France, dozens of others, until it learns to accept the 3rd party perspectives of those nations, even if Sept. 11 didnt happen to those third parties.

(4) I respect your country, and I don't have a blanket hatred of it in any way. America still is a powerful and incredible nation today; it is a haven for many millions. I have always gone out of my way to defend its international balls of steel and its unmatched patriotism but it's time to step out of the coccoon and accept what much of the world is sees in the United States of America: a bitter, angry, ailing and weak shadow of what the country used to be, and WAS AS LATE AS Sept. 10, 2001. It ain't pretty and much of the world feels sorry America's people.

(5) By the way, "I hate Americans" is something I loathe hearing and fiercely rebut. :42:

Janko,

(1) The interesting part about most of those "innocent" guys at Guantanamo is that they were captured in Afghanistan with weapons in their hand, shooting at our troops. Strangely, most of them were not Afghanis either.

(2) I know those cases were real, but, given what has happened, I would have to say they were very understandable.

(3) "Progressive nations" you say. That would be France, whose leader Jacques Chirac was personally profiting from oil deals with Saddam Hussein. Perhaps it would be Germany, led by Gerhard Schroeder, who allowed his country to traffic in arms with Saddam after Gulf War One.

(4) You describe us as "angry". This is, indeed, quite true. Most of us are extremely angry at the cowardly terrorist scum that attacked us.

You say we are "bitter". Again, true. Many of us are quite bitter over the fact that nations we consider friends, that we have helped over the years, turned their backs on us in this struggle.

You call us "ailing and weak", however, and I must wonder what you can possibly mean by that. Militarily we are, without doubt, the most powerful nation ever to exist on the face of this planet. Yet, our true strength does not lie in arms or weapons systems. Our true strength lies in the hearts of the American people.

We are not a nation of "blue-bloods". We are an amalgam of many peoples. Yet the people of America share an overriding belief in the value of freedom and democracy. That is our true strength. That, and the fact that our people by far and away honestly care about other people.

If that is "ailing and weak" my friend, let me be that way at any and all times!

(5) And for that last, I thank you, sir!

BJD
 
Now that we have expressed our true feelings, it is time for this thread to be removed. It never existed. See ya.
 
Hey, I haven't completed my cert. yet because of the unfortunate, uncooperative, narrow minded, Jackass Inst. who was assigned me as a student! I have NO interests in blowing up or harming the environment or other humans (except him) or animals because he's not interested in me. Also, I don't mind if the Gov. knows who I am, common' in and lets talk I say cuz I'm a R,W,B U.S. Citizen AND a REPUBLICAN! YEAH, GDUBYA!!!
 
wow, this subject has gone way outta hand. i've had enough and can't be bothered to read the newer posts after my last one. we'll never find a way to see both sides as two right sides and we're all starting to talk nonsense now. before more hate is spread let's go diving. :)
 

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