Padi Dsat

[Meng_Tze]

Technical texts...

As far as content, I like the IANTD technical diver Encyclopedia though I don't think it's set up well for use as a text. I also like the GUE texts.

The TDI texts that I have are...well...lacking.

The DSAT books are nice to look at...if you don't look to close. I have the first edition (have there been changes?). Personally, I think the actual content leaves a lot to be desired and I sure wish they'd stop publishing pictures of all those kneeling divers.

Air to 165? Not me. You know what they say?...Been there, done that.

Couldn't agree more with everything you said..!

you noticed that too huh? Kneeling divers........they talk about perfect buoyancy but divers do not float....

I did buy the books anyway as a basic reference, the text is better in terms of heart pictures, explanation of theory.... but that is where it stops

 

[Dive-aholic]

Personally, I think the actual content leaves a lot to be desired and I sure wish they'd stop publishing pictures of all those kneeling divers.

I agree 100%. But I think the content is still better than TDI's!

 

[HybridDiver]

Well the Padi Dsat place in vancouver b.c called internatinal dive center seems to be a good place, But im stuck between Padi or TDI. Hmm
Thanks Guys

 

[texdiveguy]

Being from the PADI school of rec diving and the TDI tec side....I prefer the TDI training but I agree the instructor is the key no matter which agency...interview the instructor/s. I own and have read the PADI DSAT Tec books---good material worth reading....also have the NAUI materials that offer some diff. insights.

 

[Hoyden]

Hello, has anyone took the Padi Dsat course before? If so tell me how different it is from TDI?
Chris

Comparing it to TDI only - DSAT has better materials and combines the material covered in TDI's Advanced Nitrox, Deco Procedures, and Extended Range courses into one course, at least in theory. In practice the DSAT class may be split into two classes, Tec 1 and Tec Deep. DSAT also has higher entry level requirements - it requires more dives before you can take the class and requires that you have completed a Rescue class before taking the class. I did DSAT Tec Deep with an instructor who also taught TDI classes so I had a choice of agencies. I am currently taking entry-level trimix with another instructor who does not offer DSAT so my certification choices are TDI or IANTD. It really is all about the instructor and I would have continued with my previous instructor and DSAT if everything had stayed status quo (he had personal issues and left the area), but I think that I really benefiting from getting a different perspective on things.

When I took Tec Deep, I bought and studied the entry level materials for every tec agency I could find - so I read DSAT, TDI, IANTD and GUE materials - of those 4 sets of books, the TDI materials were the weakest. The IANTD (Encyclopedia of Technical Diving and workbook) stuff was the most comprehensive and the DSAT manual was by far the best laid out and designed from and educational standpoint.


Jackie

 

[MikeFerrara]

Well the Padi Dsat place in vancouver b.c called internatinal dive center seems to be a good place, But im stuck between Padi or TDI. Hmm
Thanks Guys

Don't limit yourself to dive shops. The most experience techcical divers and instructors I know are independants. In fact, all of the technical instructors that I know personally and will recommend are independants.

Unfortunately, sometimes you have to get out there and rub elbows in the technical diving community a bit before you find out who these people are. I would get talking with some of the technical divers in the area and see what's going on. You might have to travel a bit to get the best instructors but I think it's worth it.

 

[Warren_L]

perfect.

That's pretty funny stuff.

 

[Steve R]

That's pretty funny stuff.

Well my good friend, it has been implied a few times that I could stand to be somewhat more polite, and I guess you're right. So that was my stab at it.

How'd I do?

Don't get me wrong, if you want to crank me up on our local Padi/DSAT IT I'd be more than willing to note the guy has far less technical diving experience than even you or I, has never done a mix dive in his life, and other than a handful of mid-depth bounce dives, none of it current, I really wondered why when I was interviewing him non-chalantly-like why I'd ever waste my money on a guy that by the looks of it couldn't pass my Intro course. This is Padi to a "T".

Not to mention, I asked around and there's not one tech diver or Op that I know had even heard of him or seen him on their boats.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there's no clown acts out there from other ABC org's. There certainly is, and in fact that's what you're most apt to get because of the way they all operate.

Having a student trying to decide on the Instructor that will give him a solid education is like asking him to throw a single dart at the board from 6' in an attempt at a bullseye, with a blindfold on.

Good luck, you'll need it.

BTW, comparing the books, manuals and videos is pointless. I've never seen a diver learning how to dive based on that. I've reviewed both agency's material, it's junk.

Regards

 

[Warren_L]

Well my good friend, it has been implied a few times that I could stand to be somewhat more polite, and I guess you're right. So that was my stab at it.

How'd I do?

Don't get me wrong, if you want to crank me up on our local Padi/DSAT IT I'd be more than willing to note the guy has far less technical diving experience than even you or I, has never done a mix dive in his life, and other than a handful of mid-depth bounce dives, none of it current, I really wondered why when I was interviewing him non-chalantly-like why I'd ever waste my money on a guy that by the looks of it couldn't pass my Intro course. This is Padi to a "T".

Not to mention, I asked around and there's not one tech diver or Op that I know had even heard of him or seen him on their boats.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there's no clown acts out there from other ABC org's. There certainly is, and in fact that's what you're most apt to get because of the way they all operate.

Having a student trying to decide on the Instructor that will give him a solid education is like asking him to throw a single dart at the board from 6' in an attempt at a bullseye, with a blindfold on.

Good luck, you'll need it.

BTW, comparing the books, manuals and videos is pointless. I've never seen a diver learning how to dive based on that. I've reviewed both agency's material, it's junk.

Regards

I don't disagree - I was actually referring to the 3 easy steps to 125m. That's classic.

 

[JeffG]

I don't disagree - I was actually referring to the 3 easy steps to 125m. That's classic.

Fast track to 125m.... Whats wrong with that? Saves ya a lot of money, especially if you get rid of that helium crap.