"Over There"

[Olive Drab]

I think I shouldve expected even less when I learned that Botchko was producing it. After NYPD Blue and all. Look at the stereotypes he used already, Idiot LT, wife cheating on the guy, "sgt scream" lol.
How come nobody knew each other? They took a handfull of people from replacement, sent them to CIF then overseas? come on.
Them waiting to fire back? Every ROE always has ther disclaimer that if you feel your life is threatened then you can use deadly force or something to that effect. Someone fires a round at me and I can identify where it came one, then they are getting a few back at them. Thats the reasons NCOs are the backbone of the Army, because we will/are supposed to step up to the plate in the absence of leadership.
They have the place surrounded and then they leave this squad there for a long time. where the hell are the bradleys or atleast some m1114s with .50s and 240bs.
Insurgents doing Pickett's charge? What the hell was that? lol

 

[Corigan]

I liked the show, even if it is fiction. Atleast it isn't reality TV. I'm not in the military, and I really don't care how realistic it is or not. They could have martians come into baghdad to help the troops in the middle of an episode and it wouldn't bother me. I guess to each their own.

Matt

 

[Squalus]

I liked the show, even if it is fiction. Atleast it isn't reality TV. I'm not in the military, and I really don't care how realistic it is or not. They could have martians come into baghdad to help the troops in the middle of an episode and it wouldn't bother me. I guess to each their own.

Matt

Those of us who take our jobs seriously and do this on a daily basis do not like being portrayed as such. Nor do we like the public being mislead in what the military is truely like.

 

[Olive Drab]

Those of us who take our jobs seriously and do this on a daily basis do not like being portrayed as such. Nor do we like the public being mislead in what the military is truely like.

That is correct.
Look at all those police movies where the locals are securing an area and some Fed Special Agent comes in and says "ill take it from here". A lot of times they make the SA look like superman and the local cops duds. A bunch of garbage as well, but some people believe it. Luckily I have a lot of family/family friends in LE who kept me from believing this stuff.
I guess "over there" in Hollywood they only care about what brings in the bucks/their own agendas instead of what is the truth.

 

[Corigan]

If I wanted a true to life depiction of the military I would watch the military channel. If I want a fictional drama based in a war on iraq, well over there will do. I don't expect it to be accurate, it's TV. It's a melodrama. It's fictional. I don't think the world wants another geraldo episode. Wouldn't it be bad if the enemy could turn on the TV and watch over there and get real tactical information? I would hope that us watching would have enough sense to realize that the show is fictional. I remember watching the show Tour of Duty in the early 80's. I used to ask my dad who is a Nam vet about the show. He liked it, even if it was a bunch of BS. I kind of feel the same about over there. It's a bunch of BS, but I was entertained for the hour. That is all it is, fictional entertainment. It isn't a portrayal.

Matt

 

[Azza]

If I wanted a true to life depiction of the military I would watch the military channel. If I want a fictional drama based in a war on iraq, well over there will do. I don't expect it to be accurate, it's TV. It's a melodrama. It's fictional. I don't think the world wants another geraldo episode. Wouldn't it be bad if the enemy could turn on the TV and watch over there and get real tactical information? I would hope that us watching would have enough sense to realize that the show is fictional. I remember watching the show Tour of Duty in the early 80's. I used to ask my dad who is a Nam vet about the show. He liked it, even if it was a bunch of BS. I kind of feel the same about over there. It's a bunch of BS, but I was entertained for the hour. That is all it is, fictional entertainment. It isn't a portrayal.

Matt

Maybe you realise its fiction but there are too many people out there that find it hard to differentiate between fiction and reality on TV.

The last thing any Soldier, Sailor, Marine, Airman or Officer needs is the general public getting half cocked idea’s about what they do for a living.

 

[2Tours N Iraq`]

Well put Azza, simply well put.

I asked Bill51 to post this on the "RightNation" forum which he so kindly did but I feel it should be posted here as well.

I think it is dispicable that for all our sacrifices we soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines get portrayed as idiots, let alone being denined the honor we deserve of being average Americans doing extraordinary things in strenuous circumstances that Hollywood half-wits wouldn't even consider portraying with any sense of accuracy. I was a 24-year old Platoon Leader for 3rd platoon, A Company, 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division in charge of 33 infantrymen and four M2A2 ODS Bradley Fighting Vehicles for the major ground war. I can personaly attest to the bravery and dedication of all my men. In An Najaf after a 4-day shamal (super sandstorm) we received direct fire (automatic rifle fire) and indirect fire (artillery and mortars) all at once. In situations like those soldiers DON'T break down and puke and take our helmets off. We locate where the enemy is, maneuver into position, and we kill them. Another example is when my Bradley (vehicle) went down due to a hydrolic leak and had to be left on the tarmac during the initial seizure of Baghdad International Airport. I had to "jump track" (take charge of another Bradley in my platoon) and momentarily leave the Bradley and soldiers there so I could continue to lead the rest of my platoon. While they were on the tarmac, a corporal (an E-4, lower enlisted soldier) took charge of the infantrymen left there to secure the vehicle after receiving fire from a rooftop nearly 1 kilometer away. The corporal positioned the two crew-served weapons systems they had, directed each weapons crew on when to fire, and killed the enemy soldier who originally engaged them. This particular corporal had to evaluate the situation, know where all other US forces in the area were, maintain the weapons fire on the target, and ensure that friendly forces wouldn't get harmed from richocheting bullets. Not bad for a 22-year old to accomplish considering that the entire time bullets were splashing up dirt all around them. When confronted with danger, all the troops I had the honor of leading on the battlefield performed superbly. It was no small accomplishment on all of our parts that all of my men made it home to their families. All of us served bravely and are proud of our service.

Blane J. Kusterle,
US Army, Infantry
Serving proudly on my second tour here.

 

[Corigan]

I would hope a majority of the public would be smart enough to realize our armed forces and private citizens that are fighting for our freedom are not a bunch of bafoons. I thought some of the scenarios were quite comical, because it was so obvious those scenarios would never occur.

Matt

 

[Squalus]

If I wanted a true to life depiction of the military I would watch the military channel. If I want a fictional drama based in a war on iraq, well over there will do. I don't expect it to be accurate, it's TV. It's a melodrama. It's fictional. I don't think the world wants another geraldo episode. Wouldn't it be bad if the enemy could turn on the TV and watch over there and get real tactical information? I would hope that us watching would have enough sense to realize that the show is fictional. I remember watching the show Tour of Duty in the early 80's. I used to ask my dad who is a Nam vet about the show. He liked it, even if it was a bunch of BS. I kind of feel the same about over there. It's a bunch of BS, but I was entertained for the hour. That is all it is, fictional entertainment. It isn't a portrayal.

Matt

Well Matt, some of us lead the life then there are those who are arm chair quaterbacks. When you feel the need to become a real leader then do so. Unfortunately, there are those around that take whatever hollywood puts out to be factual and take it as gospel. My hats off to you, seeing you probably passed high school.

Speaking about Geraldo, gee why do you think we kicked him out of the club.....cause he could not keep his mouth shut. What do you know about tactics anyway?

 

[Azza]

Well put Azza, simply well put.

I asked Bill51 to post this on the "RightNation" forum which he so kindly did but I feel it should be posted here as well.

I think it is dispicable that for all our sacrifices we soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines get portrayed as idiots, let alone being denined the honor we deserve of being average Americans doing extraordinary things in strenuous circumstances that Hollywood half-wits wouldn't even consider portraying with any sense of accuracy. I was a 24-year old Platoon Leader for 3rd platoon, A Company, 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division in charge of 33 infantrymen and four M2A2 ODS Bradley Fighting Vehicles for the major ground war. I can personaly attest to the bravery and dedication of all my men. In An Najaf after a 4-day shamal (super sandstorm) we received direct fire (automatic rifle fire) and indirect fire (artillery and mortars) all at once. In situations like those soldiers DON'T break down and puke and take our helmets off. We locate where the enemy is, maneuver into position, and we kill them. Another example is when my Bradley (vehicle) went down due to a hydrolic leak and had to be left on the tarmac during the initial seizure of Baghdad International Airport. I had to "jump track" (take charge of another Bradley in my platoon) and momentarily leave the Bradley and soldiers there so I could continue to lead the rest of my platoon. While they were on the tarmac, a corporal (an E-4, lower enlisted soldier) took charge of the infantrymen left there to secure the vehicle after receiving fire from a rooftop nearly 1 kilometer away. The corporal positioned the two crew-served weapons systems they had, directed each weapons crew on when to fire, and killed the enemy soldier who originally engaged them. This particular corporal had to evaluate the situation, know where all other US forces in the area were, maintain the weapons fire on the target, and ensure that friendly forces wouldn't get harmed from richocheting bullets. Not bad for a 22-year old to accomplish considering that the entire time bullets were splashing up dirt all around them. When confronted with danger, all the troops I had the honor of leading on the battlefield performed superbly. It was no small accomplishment on all of our parts that all of my men made it home to their families. All of us served bravely and are proud of our service.

Blane J. Kusterle,
US Army, Infantry
Serving proudly on my second tour here.

Sounds like the you boys are having fun over there. Keep safe and try to keep Murphy at a decent arms length.

BTW not sure about your army, but in ours the Corporal is the backbone of the entire Army