opinions on SDI-TDI Tech Courses

[texdiveguy]

You can read?

I can 'read'...but am a terrriblee speller!

 

[JeffG]

I think 'most' of us AGREE to that....particularly when it comes to technical diving.

So...How does one judge if the don't have the knowledge yet?

Do you yet see the problem?

The new wanna-be tech diver doesn't know what he doesn't know. How is he in a position to be able to weed out the dolt instructor vs the good one?

 

[LVX]

So...How does one judge if the don't have the knowledge yet?

Do you yet see the problem?

The new wanna-be tech diver doesn't know what he doesn't know. How is he in a position to be able to weed out the dolt instructor vs the good one?

By spending some time doing research. Are you telling me you can't get on this website or the deco stop and look and read everything you can. Are you saying you can't go to the GUE or NAUI site and read and send emails asking questions. This is not an open water cert and if someone is going straight through a bunch of courses without taking the time to learn some things on their own then they are asking for trouble. And, if they just pick a class based on an agency, how do they know the instructor is any good. If they are lucky and get a good instructor and a good agency without doing their own research then great but most won't be so lucky. There are plenty of places to do research and I do not agree you have to wait to get into class before you start to understand.

In fact, I have a student right now who knows more than many technical instructors I know...

 

[texdiveguy]

So...How does one judge if the don't have the knowledge yet?

He/she does the leg work and investigates technical diving....they do like so many before them...ask questions/read articles-books...seek a mentor...interview instructors (I did),,,,Jeff it is really not that diffecult to do.... if one is ready to enter into technical diving they should be self resourceful to seek answers......their picks might not be the one you or me would of made...but hopefully it is the correct one for them.

 

[Randy43068]

So...How does one judge if the don't have the knowledge yet?

Do you yet see the problem?

The new wanna-be tech diver doesn't know what he doesn't know. How is he in a position to be able to weed out the dolt instructor vs the good one?

Exactly. It really is a shame that the technical training marketplace is so much a mess.

Perhaps technical dive training is the way it is because there isn't a governing body who is able to provide real standards. As "passionate" of an issue this is, I doubt any kind of governing body will come to be in the near future either.

GUE is the only agency I know of who has the balls to speak about the dangerous things other agencies are trying to push as technical dive training.

Jeff is right, one won't know one has piss poor training until the "oh ****" moment comes and they don't' know how to deal with the situation.

 

[LVX]

Jeff is right, one won't know one has piss poor training until the "oh ****" moment comes and they don't' know how to deal with the situation.

If they are coming in blind you are right. Again, students who know nothing about technical diving probably should not consider it until they have more experience. If a student came to me and had no idea what they were getting into, I would not take them as students....

OK, I will let this go now... Bye and happy arguing...

 

[JeffG]

Exactly. It really is a shame that the technical training marketplace is so much a mess.

Perhaps technical dive training is the way it is because there isn't a governing body who is able to provide real standards. As "passionate" of an issue this is, I doubt any kind of governing body will come to be in the near future either.

GUE is the only agency I know of who has the balls to speak about the dangerous things other agencies are trying to push as technical dive training.

Jeff is right, one won't know one has piss poor training until the "oh ****" moment comes and they don't' know how to deal with the situation.

Actually.

I found one question that could be used to judge a TDI instructor.

"What do you think about TDI?"

If they answer with something close to "They Suck"...they might be a good instructor.

 

[JeffG]

He/she does the leg work and investigates technical diving....they do like so many before them...ask questions/read articles-books...seek a mentor...interview instructors (I did),,,,Jeff it is really not that diffecult to do.... if one is ready to enter into technical diving they should be self resourceful to seek answers......their picks might not be the one you or me would of made...but hopefully it is the correct one for them.

I understand that, but I believe there still is a huge opportunity for a BS artist to "Peddle his wares" to the unsuspecting.

and I believe this because I see it every year here and if it is happening here, then there is a good chance its happening somewhere else. (Heck we even reported him to TDI...and that accomplished nothing.)

 

[rjack321]

I understand that, but I believe there still is a huge opportunity for a BS artist to "Peddle his wares" to the unsuspecting.

and I believe this because I see it every year here and if it is happening here, then there is a good chance its happening somewhere else. (Heck we even reported him to TDI...and that accomplished nothing.)

Not only that but OW training and specialties (e.g. padi deep) are generally so bad...

If a lame technical instructor hands the uninformed a card for some joke of a class, it would appear to fit right into the progression. Look ma extended range!

 

[Randy43068]

If they are coming in blind you are right. Again, students who know nothing about technical diving probably should not consider it until they have more experience. If a student came to me and had no idea what they were getting into, I would not take them as students....

OK, I will let this go now... Bye and happy arguing...

Huh? Students come to you because they want what you know and are depending on your expertise.

IMO, the training industry is effed up in a big way. From OW to technical. If it weren't , we'd not be having this discussion.